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Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
some1 said he wasnt with blackhouse, so who the fuk are these guys?
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Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
"ah youngsters"
aye man its true though. If Dana wants to be all about the business, let him do the Bob Arum thing and stfu.
He wants to talk shyt to fighters like he actually is one. Forcing them to take fights on short notice, where they get knocked out and then talks countless shyt and cuts them.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
how long has okami been around tho? we've seen his best and even that didnt draw fans.He never became champ and never will now hes slippin and the ufc are still suppose to pay up? they aint running a charity
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I think cutting a guy like Okami hurts the legitimacy of the organization, I understand the entertainment aspect but at the same time if you want to be taken seriously as a sports organization it has to be about the competition aspect too and Okami is still a top 10 MW. This is made even worse when to most people it seems like a single guy is making these decisions based on his own inclinations. Why does a guy like Gerald Harris get cut after 1 loss despite finishing his 3 previous opponents while boring ass Dan Miller, who is 3-6 in his past 9 or Chris Leben are still with the organization when he's lost 4 of 5 and tested positive for banned substances? (save the he's exciting excuse, his last 3 fights were horrible) How do you justify firing Miguel Torres for tweeting a rape joke from a TV show yet Forrest Griffin makes his own rape joke but has a job with the UFC for life?
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
did u see gerald harris last fight in the ufc? Its one thing to have a boring style but if u are down by 2 rds in a fight and in the 3rd u have a staring match that's like the ultimate insult. Dan miller aint the most dynamic fighter but he aint goin to beat a contender via l&p like gerrald would.
come on dawg its obvious they are doing him a solid at this point. They know once he's cut he'll basically commit suicide so they are just keeping him around and gettingf him help.
forrest is/was a draw and put tuf/ufc on the map, miguel couldn't draw spit and (since he moved) fought boring
So guys are held to different standards based on how ownership views them. It is what it is, all I'm saying is you can't expect to be seen as having the same legitimacy as the other major sports leagues when you operate this way.
So called boring fighters can be released after a single loss because they've had previous success operating within the parameters of the sport, it's not much different than shady promoters back in the day basically telling dudes they won't get another fight if they go for takedowns.
UFC would rather have unskilled, rock em sock em type fights paying guys minimal money than have highly skilled technicians on the roster. Again it is what it is but I think it hurts the legitimacy
Plus its not like the UFC hasn't shown a propensity to favor certain guys based purely on personal relationships, its an open joke that Chuck Liddell's still getting payed for doing basically nothing and they put racist ass Matt Hughes in charge of fighter conduct where he's probably getting paid to do jack shyt while they've justified cutting fighters because they make too much
So called boring fighters can be released after a single loss because they've had previous success operating within the parameters of the sport, it's not much different than shady promoters back in the day basically telling dudes they won't get another fight if they go for takedowns.
UFC would rather have unskilled, rock em sock em type fights paying guys minimal money than have highly skilled technicians on the roster. Again it is what it is but I think it hurts the legitimacy
Plus its not like the UFC hasn't shown a propensity to favor certain guys based purely on personal relationships, its an open joke that Chuck Liddell's still getting payed for doing basically nothing and they put racist ass Matt Hughes in charge of fighter conduct where he's probably getting paid to do jack shyt while they've justified cutting fighters because they make too much
Propaganda
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the ufc definitely holds different standards for different guys. okami's done a lot more than other guys who are still with the organization. not even debatable.
that said, to be perfectly honest, although i don't think he deserves to get cut, i'm kind of glad he did. i never enjoyed watching him fight, he was never good enough to be a real contender (although they tried), he never beats anybody of real significance, he really is gate-keeper status at this point, which isn't that bad in of itself, a lot of guys are on that level...but he's a boring as fukk gate-keeper.
i know it's unfair but i'm like
that said, to be perfectly honest, although i don't think he deserves to get cut, i'm kind of glad he did. i never enjoyed watching him fight, he was never good enough to be a real contender (although they tried), he never beats anybody of real significance, he really is gate-keeper status at this point, which isn't that bad in of itself, a lot of guys are on that level...but he's a boring as fukk gate-keeper.
i know it's unfair but i'm like
The Infamous
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the ufc definitely holds different standards for different guys. okami's done a lot more than other guys who are still with the organization. not even debatable.
that said, to be perfectly honest, although i don't think he deserves to get cut, i'm kind of glad he did. i never enjoyed watching him fight, he was never good enough to be a real contender (although they tried), he never beats anybody of real significance, he really is gate-keeper status at this point, which isn't that bad in of itself, a lot of guys are on that level...but he's a boring as fukk gate-keeper.
i know it's unfair but i'm like
He's never good enough to be a real contender? He earned [was not given] a title shot against Anderson. How in the world was he not a real contender? He's beaten Lombard, Belcher x2, Marquardt, Swick and Munoz. Those are significant wins. He has a really good resume and has only lost [minus the Boetsch fight] to elite fighters. He's the 6th ranked MW in the world and is a tough fight for virtually everybody in the division. I think he's definitely above gatekeeper status. If he were to fight Weidman right now, it would a competitive fight.
The Infamous
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Agreed. And it's not like he's making a hefty payday, dude is getting paid 42k show money.
What professional sport doesn't hold athletes to the standard that owners view them?
Chuck and those guys were key parts of the rise of Zuffa. Organizations give guys like that lifetime jobs all of the time.
Dana is cutting guys for being boring, but it's about who's the best. He strong arms small name fighters to take fights on short notice, or risk losing their job in the ufc. If you look at it from the fighters aspect it really is shytty.
The Infamous
Superstar
From the aspect of a lower to mid-tier fighter, it's very shytty. You get paid peanuts and there is pretty much zero job security, the UFC can cut you whenever they like. At least in others sports [to my knowledge] they buy you out and pay a portion of your contract, not in the UFC.