Essential The Official MMA Thread

[The ADD]

From the aspect of a lower to mid-tier fighter, it's very shytty. You get paid peanuts and there is pretty much zero job security, the UFC can cut you whenever they like. At least in others sports [to my knowledge] they buy you out and pay a portion of your contract, not in the UFC.

Don't have a fighters union brehs

 

[Propaganda]

He's never good enough to be a real contender? He earned [was not given] a title shot against Anderson. How in the world was he not a real contender? He's beaten Lombard, Belcher x2, Marquardt, Swick and Munoz. Those are significant wins. He has a really good resume and has only lost [minus the Boetsch fight] to elite fighters. He's the 6th ranked MW in the world and is a tough fight for virtually everybody in the division. I think he's definitely above gatekeeper status. If he were to fight Weidman right now, it would a competitive fight.

nah. none of those guys outside of marquardt were of any significance, maybe lombard cuz he still had some hype. he did get a title shot but it's not like he beat a bunch of big names to get there. he had a 3 fight win streak and a bs win over silva propping him up for that fight. like you said, he loses to elite fighters...cuz he isn't one himself.

a good but stagnated fighter and a tough out for a lot of guys in his division? sounds like a gatekeeper to me.

 

[The Infamous]

nah. none of those guys outside of marquardt were of any significance, maybe lombard cuz he still had some hype. he did get a title shot but it's not like he beat a bunch of big names to get there. he had a 3 fight win streak and a bs win over silva propping him up for that fight. like you said, he loses to elite fighters...cuz he isn't one himself.

a good but stagnated fighter and a tough out for a lot of guys in his division? sounds like a gatekeeper to me.

Marquardt, Belcher, Munoz, Lombard and possibly Swick were ranked opponents [top 10 and even top 5] when Okami beat them, therefore they were significant. Saying only the Marquardt win was significant is completely wrong.

When you're the 6th best MW in the world and can beat 90%+ of your division, then I think it's safe to say you're more than a gatekeeper.

 

[Propaganda]

obviously i think you're overvaluing a lot of his opponents. belcher's always been a mid-tier guy, munoz was still establishing himself, lombard's hype train broke down after the boestch fight, swick...ehh, i'll give you that one, he was sort of a factor...6 years ago.

90% of the division is debatable. whatever the case, if you can still win a lot of fights but you're not beating anybody that really matters, then yeah, you're basically hitting gatekeeper status. i dunno, maybe you just don't like that particular word.

but like i said in the first place, he shouldn't have been released.

 

[puppetmaster]

http://www.cagepotato.com/photo-of-the-day-big-country-nelson-is-now-just-country/


I commend the dude for finally at least trying to lean out. .. But Cormier is still gonna give him the business



-P-

 

[Roman Brady]

There is something about this whole dana/nelson situation thats weird.First they had him go through TUF (when he was already established) to enter the ufc.Yeah they needed a name to beat/ protect kimbo but it was still beneath him. Was stuck with the shytty rookie contract and couldnt even renegotiate despite the waves he made in the hw division. Then when it expires he chooses to play russian roulette and accepts a fight without a contract and loses.Just the kind of leverage you need before signing a new contract And through it all he has grinned and bared jibes about his weight and appearance, wasnt dana's latest request that he shave the "smelly""stinky" beard too? when is enough enough

Nelson looks like a Cambodian pow in that pic and since he started shrinking has it improved his skills? cardio? losing muscle mass isnt the same as getting fit.He just seems to have enough endurance to be a punching bag but not go down

 

[The Infamous]

obviously i think you're overvaluing a lot of his opponents. belcher's always been a mid-tier guy, munoz was still establishing himself, lombard's hype train broke down after the boestch fight, swick...ehh, i'll give you that one, he was sort of a factor...6 years ago.

90% of the division is debatable. whatever the case, if you can still win a lot of fights but you're not beating anybody that really matters, then yeah, you're basically hitting gatekeeper status. i dunno, maybe you just don't like that particular word.

but like i said in the first place, he shouldn't have been released.

I'm not overvaluing his opponents, the ones I mentioned were ranked (mainly top 10, a few top 5) by reputable MMA sites/journalists. Plus, there isn't more than 4 MWs in the UFC that have a better resume than Okami. He has a strong list of wins.

Okami has recently beat two top 10 opponents (Lombard and Belcher), how can you say he hasn't been beating anybody that really matters? There are only about 4-5 MWs that I would favor over Okami, that's leaves about 90% that he can beat.

 

[Lord Beasley]

Lomfraud shoulda been cut before Okami. breh came over on that hypetrain and got exposed.

 

[The Infamous]

Lomfraud shoulda been cut before Okami. breh came over on that hypetrain and got exposed.

The funny thing is, Lombard has a 300k base pay and gets a PPV share as well, while Okami makes 42k base pay. Okami has a record of 13-5 in the UFC, while Lombard is 1-2.

 

[Lord Beasley]

The funny thing is, Lombard has a 300k base pay and gets a PPV share as well, while Okami makes 42k base pay. Okami has a record of 13-5 in the UFC, while Lombard is 1-2.

i didnt even know that Zuffa pulled that hoe shyt. they need to let lom go on back to Bellator and face scrubs...

 

[Screwface Exchange]

So guys are held to different standards based on how ownership views them. It is what it is, all I'm saying is you can't expect to be seen as having the same legitimacy as the other major sports leagues when you operate this way.

Yes, its a business, every1 in the company is held to different standards. You may get fired even though you came in on time and busted your ass, while the CEO's son will get a token promotion. Its an entertainment business that makes revenue based on ppv buys, and tv ratings/views. Not by how skilled, or years served a fighter has. I know it sux, I know its not fair, but since when is business every fair.

The funny part about your statement is UFC having to be held or seen as legitimate as other sports, what are sports seem legitimate to you? NCAA dont even pay their athletes and make billions off em. They get suspended and kicked outta skool for just signing an autograph for $5 bucs, lol.

Boxing the biggest ppv sport, and the word legitimate don't even belong in the same sentence. How about Baseball, Arod making more than whole franchises are worth and the whole time on Steriods. How about biking, The entire top 12 of the tour de france during the lance armstrong era were doping, hence why they won't even rename a new winner after they stripped lance. I know we aren't counting NFL as legitimate, Lawrence Taylor smoking crack during halftime of a super bowl. Last years superbowl the lights went out, no power, but the concourse power was still on selling beer. And the extra tv commercials were already loaded and ready.

UFC is trying to be just as rich and corrupt as the others, and thus far they are doing a great job of it. Good job, Joe Silva, Dana, Lorenzo, Coker and every1 else in them offices.

 

[reserved_one]

Lomfraud shoulda been cut before Okami. breh came over on that hypetrain and got exposed.

I agree, Lombard dropping to 175 saved him some time, but Dana clearly overspent to get him and thought they were going to get the Bellator version that ko'd scrubs left and right. The UFC is just a different beast. His next fight is against Nate Marquart this month. I think this fight will be a loser gets cut.

 

[Roman Brady]

Lomfraud shoulda been cut before Okami. breh came over on that hypetrain and got exposed.

took me a while to figure out who this was, thought u were making out lefraud james is in the ufc

 

[puppetmaster]

Damn. Pettis beat Bendo with a separated shoulder.





-P-

 

[jackswstd]

Damn. Pettis beat Bendo with a separated shoulder.





-P-

If that's true then Bendo deserved to lose if he lost to a guy with a bum knee and shoulder.