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Tell them other bytches to stop that 1 trick:pacspit:
What other chicks? shes only faced 2 serious ones and one is a mental midget the other might be susceptible to armbars
LOL@ bullrush! She is an OLYMPIC Silver medalist her technique is THAT good stop hating breh:birdman:
She did bullrush her very much like how brock use to, that is a sign of a fraud with no poise racing through the steps memorized..Tryin to get the whole thing over with as soon as possible before they get exposed (see brock v velenquez)
Tripped kaufman right into full mount and it was all over. The fukk she has to try any other submission when that armbar is MONEY every time :win:
that full mount could have also led to a triangle choke but she didnt opt for it.Is it because shes only got one trick in her bag? is she not confident doing anything else?

She wont ever be tested until she fights someone who will avoid the clinch at all costs and i think Cyborg might be the one to do it. Even then im not so sure if she could stuff one of Ronda's throws or trips. People are sleeping on how strong Ronda is in the clinch
Why cyborg keeps gettin mentioned in the same sentence as RR is mindboggling its never happening.Zuffa Knew what they had in ronda and told her to cut down to 135 if she wanted to get shine.The stars aligned and shes now cleaned out the division.U would be better off mentioning coenan but she seems to have backslid in recent times that now I think even kedzie could beat her
 

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I was just about to say this is very similar to Lesnar. That said there doesn't seem to be anyone more advanced to defeat her right now.
 

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Based on what you wrote, I thought that you were implying that finishes equates to better fights. Hence, why I mentioned Mir/Cro Cop, a fight that had a finish, but was horrible.

Lighter weight fights are far from sparring matches. Also, I can't think of many fights from the lower weight classes that were like the Mir/Cro Cop fight.
really? most of cruz's fights seem like 2 brothers just goin thru the motions at camp to me.Mighty mouse and torres are another set of tag n flee-ers and for the most part so is benavedez and faber (bar the bowles/mizugaki fight) These are the faces (minus aldo) associated with the below LW weight classes and they are all decision magnets.As most of these divisions are shallow it magnifies the problem
 

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really? most of cruz's fights seem like 2 brothers just goin thru the motions at camp to me.Mighty mouse and torres are another set of tag n flee-ers and for the most part so is benavedez and faber (bar the bowles/mizugaki fight) These are the faces (minus aldo) associated with the below LW weight classes and they are all decision magnets.As most of these divisions are shallow it magnifies the problem

Those other guys, you have a point. Faber is a finisher though. I think Benavidez will finish more now that he's in the right weight class.
 

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really? most of cruz's fights seem like 2 brothers just goin thru the motions at camp to me.Mighty mouse and torres are another set of tag n flee-ers and for the most part so is benavedez and faber (bar the bowles/mizugaki fight) These are the faces (minus aldo) associated with the below LW weight classes and they are all decision magnets.As most of these divisions are shallow it magnifies the problem

Cruz's fights, although not amazing, are still great fights. Not sure what you're talking about. Mighty Mouse recently had two great fights with McCall, the first one being one of the best fights of the year. Torres is a tag n fleer? I'm guessing you haven't watched his WEC fights (6 wins, 5 finishes and the lone decision was a fight of the year candidate). Plus, for a tag n fleer, he sure has a lot of finishes (80% finish rate). LOL @ Benavidez being a tag n fleer. Benavidez is one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC, he's a FINISHER. Same with Faber. You need to stop with your trolling. Most of the fighters you named have great finishing rates and for the most part put on exciting fights (Faber: 81%, Benavidez: 75%, Torres: 80%). Even Mighty Mouse has 60% finish rate. The only fighter that you named that goes to a decent amount of decisions is Cruz.

LOL @ most of the fighters you named NOT being decision magnets. Try harder b.
 

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Cruz's fights, although not amazing, are still great fights.
nah hes a posterboy for the scary place standup fighting is headed.No thx
Mighty Mouse recently had two great fights with McCall the first one being one of the best fights of the year.
Whats that saying about sun shining out of a dog's ass? not knocking that fight.Read what was written by in large hes a point fighter and the 2nd fight demonstrated that.Maybe that one tickled your fancy too
Torres is a tag n fleer? I'm guessing you haven't watched his WEC fights
Whats WEC got to do with it? when ppl deride gsfag do u honestly think they are referring to george "rush" stpierre? come off it.Since torres lost to bowles he basically fights to tag and kill the clock.Hes only had what one finish since
Benavidez is one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC, he's a FINISHER. Same with Faber. You need to stop with your trolling.
I am not trollin that trick is for kids.There is a difference between saying primarily a point fighter and being a point fighter..These 2 fall in the former category
Most of the fighters you named have great finishing rates and for the most part put on exciting fights (Faber: 81%, Benavidez: 75%, Torres: 80%). Even Mighty Mouse has 60% finish rate. The only fighter that you named that goes to a decent amount of decisions is Cruz.
I havent been entertained by any torres fight since he started losing except the mcdonald fight.Faber hasnt been exciting in the ufc but its whatever there.And if u think benny is 1 o the most exciting guys around :manny: lets agree to disagree
 

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What fighter finishes when he loses? That doesn't even make sense
:rudy: its like someone saying clay guida has boring fights and my retort being not when he loses.Translation if a fight isnt going guida's way and its a barnburner rest assured hes going to lose.U say Faber is a finisher my retort being not when he loses.Translation in his last 3 high profile fights when he coulnt finish it went to a decision and he lost :youngsabo:
 

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You made a list of fighters that are 'decision magnets'. Let's go through this list:

- Faber: NOT a decision magnet
- Torres: NOT a decision magnet
- Benavidez: NOT a decision magnet
- Mighty Mouse: has finished 60% of his fights (He's had more FINISHES than decisions), therefore you cannot call him a decision magnet.

Cruz was the only fighter that you named that goes to a decent amount of decisions.

4/5 fighters you named are NOT decision magnets. That's a GREAT percentage bro.

Furthermore, most of the fighters you named do NOT tag n flee. I have mentioned finishing rates to back this statement up. These same rates contradict what you're saying. In addition, Torres and Faber have a higher finishing rate than Anderson Silva, I guess Anderson is a decision magnet as well.

Finally, decisions do not mean the fight was bad. A good amount of the best fights go to a decision. What type of fights generally receive Fight of the Night and Fight of the Year awards? You guessed it, DECISION fights.
 

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That nikka roman brady a bytch always running his mouth and got an opinion about something put that rep back on let me act on my opinion of you :pacspit:
 

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I was just looking at the UFC on FX 5 card.

Main
Travis Browne (13-0-1) vs. Antonio Silva (16-4)
Jussier da Silva (14-1) vs. John Dodson (13-5)
Rob Broughton (15-7-1) vs. Matt Mitrione (5-1)
Josh Neer (33-11-1) vs. Justin Edwards (7-2)

Undercard
Phil Davis (9-1, 1 NC) vs. Wagner Prado (8-0, 1 NC)
Mike Pierce (14-5) vs. Aaron Simpson (12-3)
Yves Edwards (41-18-1) vs. Jeremy Stephens (20-8)
Marcus LeVesseur (21-6) vs. Carlo Prater (30-11-1)
Louis Gaudinot (6-2) vs. Darren Uyenoyama (7-3)
Diego Nunes (17-3) vs. Bart Palaszewski (36-15)


How is Phil Davis on the undercard? He's arguably more talented than any of the fighters on the main card.
 

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I was just looking at the UFC on FX 5 card.

Main
Travis Browne (13-0-1) vs. Antonio Silva (16-4)
Jussier da Silva (14-1) vs. John Dodson (13-5)
Rob Broughton (15-7-1) vs. Matt Mitrione (5-1)
Josh Neer (33-11-1) vs. Justin Edwards (7-2)

Undercard
Phil Davis (9-1, 1 NC) vs. Wagner Prado (8-0, 1 NC)
Mike Pierce (14-5) vs. Aaron Simpson (12-3)
Yves Edwards (41-18-1) vs. Jeremy Stephens (20-8)
Marcus LeVesseur (21-6) vs. Carlo Prater (30-11-1)
Louis Gaudinot (6-2) vs. Darren Uyenoyama (7-3)
Diego Nunes (17-3) vs. Bart Palaszewski (36-15)


How is Phil Davis on the undercard? He's arguably more talented than any of the fighters on the main card.

well thats what dana thinks of him


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I was just looking at the UFC on FX 5 card.

Main
Travis Browne (13-0-1) vs. Antonio Silva (16-4)
Jussier da Silva (14-1) vs. John Dodson (13-5)
Rob Broughton (15-7-1) vs. Matt Mitrione (5-1)
Josh Neer (33-11-1) vs. Justin Edwards (7-2)

Undercard
Phil Davis (9-1, 1 NC) vs. Wagner Prado (8-0, 1 NC)
Mike Pierce (14-5) vs. Aaron Simpson (12-3)
Yves Edwards (41-18-1) vs. Jeremy Stephens (20-8)
Marcus LeVesseur (21-6) vs. Carlo Prater (30-11-1)
Louis Gaudinot (6-2) vs. Darren Uyenoyama (7-3)
Diego Nunes (17-3) vs. Bart Palaszewski (36-15)


How is Phil Davis on the undercard? He's arguably more talented than any of the fighters on the main card.

Agreed, Davis/Prado needs to take the place of Neer/Edwards on the main card.
 

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How is Phil Davis on the undercard? He's arguably more talented than any of the fighters on the main card.
Because he fukin sucks and shows no sign of improvement. I honestly do not know how he made it to UFC level.He also hasnt had an exciting fight since the one he subbed a dude

In saying that ufc have always had a different set of rules for white l&ps and black l&ps.I mean u know something is up when rashad aint getting no love
You made a list of fighters that are 'decision magnets'. Let's go through this list:

- Faber: NOT a decision magnet
- Torres: NOT a decision magnet
- Benavidez: NOT a decision magnet
- Mighty Mouse: has finished 60% of his fights (He's had more FINISHES than decisions), therefore you cannot call him a decision magnet.
All these fighters have a lot of UD/SD to their name.And most of their high profile fights "in the ufc" have been primarily sparring matches.You want to harp about WEC? K.But I already stated the lack of depth magnifies these results the more.You are just arguing for arguing sake.To say torres (since bowles served him) hasnt been a point fighter is hilarious

Finally, decisions do not mean the fight was bad. A good amount of the best fights go to a decision. What type of fights generally receive Fight of the Night and Fight of the Year awards? You guessed it, DECISION fights.
Again I already clearly explained the type of style of fights that fuels this argument u want to plead ignorance :manny:
 
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