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The Infamous
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Because he fukin sucks and shows no sign of improvement. I honestly do not know how he made it to UFC level.He also hasnt had an exciting fight since the one he subbed a dude
In saying that ufc have always had a different set of rules for white l&ps and black l&ps.I mean u know something is up when rashad aint getting no love
All these fighters have a lot of UD/SD to their name.And most of their high profile fights "in the ufc" have been primarily sparring matches.You want to harp about WEC? K.But I already stated the lack of depth magnifies these results the more.You are just arguing for arguing sake.To say torres (since bowles served him) hasnt been a point fighter is hilarious
Again I already clearly explained the type of style of fights that fuels this argument u want to plead ignorance
You called said fighters 'decision magnets' and 'tag n fleers', which I proved wrong by using FACTS, yet you still argue.
Stop, you're making yourself look stupid.
And by saying a 12-1 Phil Davis sucks you have absolutely no fukking clue what you're talking about.
JMurder
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its like someone saying clay guida has boring fights and my retort being not when he loses.Translation if a fight isnt going guida's way and its a barnburner rest assured hes going to lose.U say Faber is a finisher my retort being not when he loses.Translation in his last 3 high profile fights when he coulnt finish it went to a decision and he lost
While you explained it clearly, it was still dumb and unnecessary
Dude just says shyt to say it i think. He'll bring up a good point, and completely shyt the bed just to disagree with someone.
i think the only semi reach he made was benavidez, ben actually fights and tries to finish. otherwise i look at that list and them guys are decisions dogs. at least thats what i expect from them nowadays. these are smaller guys though...
@ phillycavsfan - it doesnt make sense. they put him on the undercard after he fought rashad too
The Infamous
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i think the only semi reach he made was benavidez, ben actually fights and tries to finish. otherwise i look at that list and them guys are decisions dogs. at least thats what i expect from them nowadays. these are smaller guys though...
@ phillycavsfan - it doesnt make sense. they put him on the undercard after he fought rashad too
You know what, you and Roman Brady are correct. Faber's 81% finish rate (14 subs and 7 KOs with only 4 decisions) is A FLAT OUT LIE. Same with Torres 80% finish rate (23 subs and 9 KOs with only 8 decisions). ALL THEIR WINS HAVE BEEN BY DECISION. They've never sniffed a finish in their life. GOD DAMN DECISION FIGHTERS!
I'm going to leave some finishes [subs] by Faber that NEVER HAPPENED:
Too lazy to make one for the rest (Torres, Benavidez, etc.)
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
or it just flew over your head
u do know ufc is geared towards wrestlers right? if that is your main skill & u happen to be pretty good at it the wins will keep coming. Who has he really faced other than rashad any how? stann?
gustaffon who is not only overated but the jury is still out on on?
Who has he really faced other than rashad any how? stann?
He beat Rogerio pretty convincingly and subbed Boetsch and Gustafsson, two worthwhile fighters. The jury's not out on anything concerning Gustaffson; he's widely seen as a potential title contender and destroyed Thiago Silva (gatekeeper) in his last fight.
or it just flew over your head
ExplainBecause its not the UFC thats favoring wrestlers.
And using your logic, he should be good then right?
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
I'm going to leave some finishes [subs] by Faber that NEVER HAPPENED:
Erm because in north america mma is fought in a cage.Which is a grappler/l&ps wet dream?
Any one can win but its how u win (and who u beat) that determines how good/respected you will be.Case in point jon fitch, u take away all the white pride nonsense during his streak and no one gave a damn for the simple fact nearly all his wins were won in that risk averse style.Which too many isnt sporting despite being within the rules..To davis credit he has some subs but that was 2 yrs ago.Now that hes been thrusted into the deepend hes shown no growth and seems pretty gumby out there.@philly If you want to rate that W over lil nog as something of merit
but I think that fight underlines my argument on why he sux
You are probably one of those cats that was doing cartwheels when forrest subbed shogun right? I am sorry but when a fighter has been on hiatus for over a year I dont rate their performances the 1st fight back.Zuffa knew what they were doing but if that fight has u buying stock on gustaffson good for you.But I need to see more
Erm because in north america mma is fought in a cage.Which is a gappler/l&ps wet dream?
Any one can win but its how u win (and who u beat) that determines how good/respected you will be.Case in point jon fitch, u take away all the white pride nonsense during his streak and no one gave a damn for the simple fact nearly all his wins were won in that risk averse style.Which too many isnt sporting despite being within the rules..To davis credit he has some subs but that was 2 yrs ago.Now that hes been thrusted into the deepend hes shown no growth and seems pretty gumby out there
I do agree with the problem with the l&p fighters..But the judges arent hired by the UFC..so you can go elsewhere with that condescending tone breh. Wrestling is the best skill you can have because it allows you to take your opponent down and control them.
Its up to the commisions to get better judges and then we wont see this shyt anymore.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
I hate this style of retorting its a classic case of a dude on his heels.Where do I ever claim ufc hire judges? u just placed that their to anchor your argument
. I just stated if u are in north america and wrestling is your base you dont really need much striking/jitz cuz stalling will suffice. ps edgar apparently has dropped to featherweight