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Now you think Conor can drop a welterweight :mjlol: next you'll be claiming he could knock out Jon Jones.
BJ knocked out a Welterweight, Connors bigger than BJ, not much smaller than Lawler...
It probably wouldn't happen but I don't see why it would be impossible or somthing.
 

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This sport attracts the most insecure, racist loser cacs on the planet. In response to the Ortiz video I just posted, cacs were agreeing that he's "too ghetto" for them too.
LMFAO the dumb fukk who used to beat up his pornstar girlfriend is talkin about king mo being too ghetto :heh:
 

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Michael Johnson is not an impressive fighter...

How you gone lose to Nate Diaz? Nate's hands and legs are WEAK, and he fights with his hands down...Top Tier 155s have BULLIED Nate all over the octagon...

having your hands up doesnt equal good technique.

hands up didnt become a thing in boxing until cus d'amato introuduced the peekaboo style. with the introduction of bigger gloves and the popularity of tyson, putting your hands high somehow became "good" boxing technique.

with mma that hands up defense is even bigger nonsense because of the tiny gloves. real boxers in mma like conor mcgregor take advantage of this. your hands need to be free to punch off of defensive manouevers. if you stick your hands up to block you have to wait until the opponent stops punching to fire back. plus it squares you up and seriously hinders your vision. its not good defense at all.

your fists are weapons. with that hands up defense your fists are literally pointing at the celings. theres no threat. when you watch a fight between two fighters who use the supposedly properr technique of havimg both hamds up and high its awful.

proper positioning has to be taught and you had to learn it from somewhere. like a george benton or an eddie futch. now its much easier to walk into a gym and shout "hands up", put a towel over your shoulder and claim you are a trainer. despite having no lineage in the sport. its like in bjj you have to be given a belt by a higher belt. so you can trace the lineage all the way back to where your school of bjj comes from. in boxing most of these guys just hang around the gym waiting for a super talent to walk in and make them rich. theres very few people actually teaching correct techniques that have lineage.
 

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with mma that hands up defense is even bigger nonsense because of the tiny gloves. real boxers in mma like conor mcgregor take advantage of this. your hands need to be free to punch off of defensive manouevers. if you stick your hands up to block you have to wait until the opponent stops punching to fire back. plus it squares you up and seriously hinders your vision. its not good defense at all.
not having your hands down =/= having your hands up to your head
 

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not having your hands down =/= having your hands up to your head

lets be real. thats what everyone means when they say hands up. just like how every fight thencommentator will make a comment about left hand dropping when jabbing. the jab is supposed to come from below. you cant have a good jab that comes from the head level. you justxcant get enough leverage and its easily countered. all the great jabs came from below the opponents line of sight. the jab comes from below and the right hand comes diagonally down.
 

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lets be real. thats what everyone means when they say hands up. just like how every fight thencommentator will make a comment about left hand dropping when jabbing. the jab is supposed to come from below. you cant have a good jab that comes from the head level. you justxcant get enough leverage and its easily countered. all the great jabs came from below the opponents line of sight. the jab comes from below and the right hand comes diagonally down.
no it's not what everyone means when they say hands up, they're saying you shouldn't go anderson silva hands-to-waist style, and actually have your hands at chest level so you can check high-kicks and actually take up space in front of your head that the opponent has to punch around.
As for the jab, it's a quick in-and-out setup punch in most cases, and fighters don't usually try and get power from it.
 
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Where'd you get this info from?

It's common sense, he was 170 after rehydrating the night he fought Aldo, he looks 20 pounds heavier in the press conference and bigger than RDA

MMA fighters normally cut around 30 pounds, because nobody wants to fight in their natural weight class, so they cut huge amounts of weights unlike boxers
 
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having your hands up doesnt equal good technique.
hands up didnt become a thing in boxing until cus d'amato introuduced the peekaboo style. with the introduction of bigger gloves and the popularity of tyson, putting your hands high somehow became "good" boxing technique.

with mma that hands up defense is even bigger nonsense because of the tiny gloves. real boxers in mma like conor mcgregor take advantage of this. your hands need to be free to punch off of defensive manouevers. if you stick your hands up to block you have to wait until the opponent stops punching to fire back. plus it squares you up and seriously hinders your vision. its not good defense at all.

your fists are weapons. with that hands up defense your fists are literally pointing at the celings. theres no threat. when you watch a fight between two fighters who use the supposedly properr technique of havimg both hamds up and high its awful.

proper positioning has to be taught and you had to learn it from somewhere. like a george benton or an eddie futch. now its much easier to walk into a gym and shout "hands up", put a towel over your shoulder and claim you are a trainer. despite having no lineage in the sport. its like in bjj you have to be given a belt by a higher belt. so you can trace the lineage all the way back to where your school of bjj comes from. in boxing most of these guys just hang around the gym waiting for a super talent to walk in and make them rich. theres very few people actually teaching correct techniques that have lineage.
If you are a boxer then I will take your word with a grain of salt...

Intuitively, it seems to me that having your hands up is the best form...If you have to attack, your hands are loaded cocked and ready to go...If you have to defend, you are a smaller target...

When I watch fights, I see that the only guys who survive with their hands down are the super quick fighters...However, I don't think that it is a coincidence when those super quick hands down fighters start getting KOd left and right in their later years...

Also, in MMA, the successful hands down fighters have good take down defense and/or are very comfortable with their grappling skills...

All these observations make believe that you are better off with your hands up that not...
 

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If you are a boxer then I will take your word with a grain of salt...

Intuitively, it seems to me that having your hands up is the best form...If you have to attack, your hands are loaded cocked and ready to go...If you have to defend, you are a smaller target...

When I watch fights, I see that the only guys who survive with their hands down are the super quick fighters...However, I don't think that it is a coincidence when those super quick hands down fighters start getting KOd left and right in their later years...

Also, in MMA, the successful hands down fighters have good take down defense and/or are very comfortable with their grappling skills...

All these observations make believe that you are better off with your hands up that not...

im an amateur boxer yes. obviously i domt know how to defend a headkick but its common sense that the best defense is to not be there in the first place. blocking or parrying is a last resort defense if you are out of position. i dont really want to be taking a kick to the leg or arm at all.

fighters who start getting kayoed late in their career is fighters who relied on speed and never learned the fundamentals to rely on when their speed dropped off. when i say hands down i dont mean just having your hands down for the sake of it. you need the proper stance, head positioning and hand positioning.

i will post some pictures in a bit im on my ipad so it will take a while to get all the images together to demonstrate my points.
 

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Compare somoene who is 170 to someone is 220

conor walks around at 190, and he knows how to punch unlike those welterweights

Nick Diza knocked out lawyer, Conor would put him to sleep

First off his name is Lawler. Secondly that Diaz knockout happened over a decade ago. Lawler has fought K1 level strikers, middleweights, and hasn't been knocked out since. Conor doesn't walk around at no goddamn 190.
 

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BJ knocked out a Welterweight, Connors bigger than BJ, not much smaller than Lawler...
It probably wouldn't happen but I don't see why it would be impossible or somthing.
Do you know what welterweight he knocked out? Matt Hughes who was on his way out when it happened. Conor knocking out Aldo got y'all thinking wild ass scenarios. This dude is not gonna be knocking guys out in under 20 seconds every fight.

The same guy who turned Fabricio Werdum, a guy who's striking always paled in comparison to his BJJ into an excellent one is with Dos Anjos.

Conor may very well win, but we'll see come March 6th.
 
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First off his name is Lawler. Secondly that Diaz knockout happened over a decade ago. Lawler has fought K1 level strikers, middleweights, and hasn't been knocked out since. Conor doesn't walk around at no goddamn 190.

It happened a decade ago, when he was young and fresh, his old and took beatings now

k-1 level striking lmao,k-1 don't even exists anymore

all the guys he fought can't punch anywhere close like conor, all these guys can't punch worth a day

he can crack lawler and knock him out like he did Aldo, lawler ain't even 6 feet and you acting like he some kind of fukking giant, you are clueless
Conor got 74 inch the exact same as lawler, they are literally the same size

he ain't fought anybody close to champion kickboxer in the UFC, and I'm talking punches not kicks
 
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