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Boxer Ricardo Mayorga won his MMA debut in a bout filled with fukkery

 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Mayorga?? Dana needs to sign him just so he can smoke cigs and drink beer on the way to the cage, shyt maybe even a TUF coaching job


http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/...d-for-silva-for-years-has-seen-his-weaknesses


So weidman thinks because chael took a broken rib'd anderson silva down several times (UFC 117) that he's just gonna walk in and do the same.

Anderson does have trouble with wrestlers but I don't think Weidman is the one to do it.

 

[Change]

So weidman thinks because chael took a broken rib'd anderson silva down several times (UFC 117) that he's just gonna walk in and do the same.

Anderson does have trouble with wrestlers but I don't think Weidman is the one to do it.

Weidman is one of the best wrestler in the UFC right now. He was a 2time NCAA Division I All-American. He beat Bader and Phil Davis in college. He wrestled the same division (he's the only one not fighting at 205, even though he should be). He can take Anderson down. Believe that. He'd beat Chael in a wrestling match now as well.

His BJJ is sick too. That's why everyone is really giving him a chance. This is from 2009...

"The phrase "moral victory" is always met with some skepticism in sports. You either win or you lose, and there's little to be said for "playing hard."

Not in the case of Chris Weidman at ADCC 2009.

Weidman, a 25-year-old understudy of Matt Serra and Ray Longo, won the ADCC East Coast Trials to earn his berth to Barcelona. In the deep and talented 88-kilogram division, a dominant first-round points victory over Spaniard Daniel Tabera on Saturday assured the native New Yorker nothing but crowd hostility, and a quarter-final match-up against one of the best pound-for-pound grapplers in the world, Andre Galvao. Yet, in spite of the gulf in submission experience, the BJJ purple belt was sensational against one of the world's best black belts.

Just seconds into the bout, Galvao locked up a deep omoplata on Weidman, which he used to roll backwards, take Weidman's back, and nearly armbar him. From there, the four-time All-American at Nassau Community College and Hofstra attacked Galvao with brilliant throws from the clinch before the points period, which against nearly any other grappler in the world, would have landed him in dominant position.

Weidman's potent base allowed him to shut down Galvao's deep half guard game, as well as allowing him to attack with submissions of his own. Rather than play the passive points game that many wrestling converts do at ADCC, Weidman trapped Galvao with both a brabo choke and a Peruvian necktie, forcing the multiple-time BJJ world champion to work far harder than was anticipated. Galvao eventually used his savvy to score during the points period, passing guard and earning a 4-0 points victory.

However, the crucial thing to consider is that Weidman's primary focus is MMA -- a venue he's already looked stellar in through his first two fights. For such a novice fighter to be so aggressive and technical in a pure grappling competition against one of the world's best speaks volumes to what a great MMA middleweight Chris Weidman may become."

with all of that said I hope Anderson KO's him in highlight reel fashion.

 

[Screwface Exchange]

Weidman is one of the best wrestler in the UFC right now. He was a 2time NCAA Division I All-American. He beat Bader and Phil Davis in college. He wrestled the same division (he's the only one not fighting at 205, even though he should be). He can take Anderson down. Believe that. He'd beat Chael in a wrestling match now as well.

His BJJ is sick too. That's why everyone is really giving him a chance. This is from 2009...

"The phrase "moral victory" is always met with some skepticism in sports. You either win or you lose, and there's little to be said for "playing hard."

Not in the case of Chris Weidman at ADCC 2009.

Weidman, a 25-year-old understudy of Matt Serra and Ray Longo, won the ADCC East Coast Trials to earn his berth to Barcelona. In the deep and talented 88-kilogram division, a dominant first-round points victory over Spaniard Daniel Tabera on Saturday assured the native New Yorker nothing but crowd hostility, and a quarter-final match-up against one of the best pound-for-pound grapplers in the world, Andre Galvao. Yet, in spite of the gulf in submission experience, the BJJ purple belt was sensational against one of the world's best black belts.

Just seconds into the bout, Galvao locked up a deep omoplata on Weidman, which he used to roll backwards, take Weidman's back, and nearly armbar him. From there, the four-time All-American at Nassau Community College and Hofstra attacked Galvao with brilliant throws from the clinch before the points period, which against nearly any other grappler in the world, would have landed him in dominant position.

Weidman's potent base allowed him to shut down Galvao's deep half guard game, as well as allowing him to attack with submissions of his own. Rather than play the passive points game that many wrestling converts do at ADCC, Weidman trapped Galvao with both a brabo choke and a Peruvian necktie, forcing the multiple-time BJJ world champion to work far harder than was anticipated. Galvao eventually used his savvy to score during the points period, passing guard and earning a 4-0 points victory.

However, the crucial thing to consider is that Weidman's primary focus is MMA -- a venue he's already looked stellar in through his first two fights. For such a novice fighter to be so aggressive and technical in a pure grappling competition against one of the world's best speaks volumes to what a great MMA middleweight Chris Weidman may become."

with all of that said I hope Anderson KO's him in highlight reel fashion.

Sum nice points n history on Weidman. But really the only real question that matters for Weidman is if he can take the unsuspecting power of Anderson Silva. When Silva gives him that str8 right, wit no wind up and hits him dead on the button, will Weidman drop like many b4 him?

We all know Weidman has the wrestling and BJJ training to background, but so have many that Silva has beaten. Weidman's real problem is his experience in the ring, what dangerous strikers has he faced in the UFC or even outside it. Take a look at his MMA record who there is a top 10 striker?

Munoz, Maia, Lawlor, Bongfeldt, Sakara, Valdir Araujo, Uriah Hall, Mike Stewart n Reubem Lopes? Those last 2 i never even heard of.

Thats great for Weidman that he walks around bigger than most 185 lbs and even some 205ers, but Silva has dropped 205ers wit ease as well.

 

[*Hulks Up*]

Boxer Ricardo Mayorga won his MMA debut in a bout filled with fukkery

I have got to see this.

 

[jackswstd]

Weidman said he was training with Uriah Hall to prepare for Anderson, I think that says it all.

 

[bsmooth]

I have got to see this.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF3c_B6CzBM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF3c_B6CzBM[/ame]


Finish comes 16:30 into the video. Illegal knee to the spine or kidney shot?

This clip doesn't encapsulate the whole fukkery of the event though, seeing Mayorga smoking in the back 20 minutes before the fight, the ghetto production values and the hype video before the fight that went on for 10 minutes was pure comedy

 

[Starburst]

Weidman said he was training with Uriah Hall to prepare for Anderson, I think that says it all.

It does....Unfortunately, Uriah's credibility is right now

Wiedman better get the job done or just STFU, he talks too much and is sooo annoying, I can't wait for the excuses when he loses

 

[I_Q]

Chris is gonna get ko'd but I don't blame him for all the shyt talk because no one is giving a fukk about him including me. All of the focus has pretty much been on Anderson vs gsp/bones jones

 

[The G.O.D II]

The 162 card is pretty weak name wise for it to be a big 4th of July show. Plus Silva is fighting an unknown in Weidman basically. They should have the undercard of 161 to build up the Silva card but I know Dana probably wanted to have big names since its the first time they are in that Canadian province

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Thats pretty strange, over the last 5 years I've heard the opposite, that Belfort was one of the most beloved in Brazil and that Anderson never got shown much love. And that is what was behind the Anderson vs Vitor fight, Anderson wanted to beat up their star and reclaim the spot light for himself.

Also remember hearing stuff like Vitor and his wife are all over brazillan tv, in multiple tv ads, and his wife at 1 point was da num1 brazillian super model, and on multiple tv shows and i think did a playboy or sumthin.

here's a great breakdown and post about the rivalry between Silva and Vitor, very on point:

Spoiler

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2...between-anderson-silva-vitor-belfort-1529775/

man, this was a great read. Im almost tempted to read the entire 65 pages, I mean Ive already read half.

Ive been to Brazil so I knew about the social structure and how Silva and Maia are seen and when he called him a ''playboy'', how it's a direct insult to Maia. I also knew about the Cute Box break up, I didnt know Vitor was a THAT popular tho, for some reason I always thought it was Wand and the Nogs. Makes sense tho, plus Vitor had the Gracie blessings to the point where he almost had his name changed until the rest of the family declined.

Present day. Silva is the top dog tho. Burger King, Nike, god knows how many sponsors, interviews, and he just opened a school in los angeles. Dude is finally getting his shine on, and as a black man that grew up poor too. I am happy for him.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

also. keep in mind that a lot of the brazilian comments youre reading are a little bit bias. like them saying "brazilians dont like anderson" you must remember that youre clearly reading a playboys writing. Hes on the internet speaking advanced english, this isnt your average brazilian, this is a dude that comes from a well of background and is mingling with westerners, capable of holding a solid conversation and even slang.

the appeal of silva would most likely come from your bottom worker, black folks, etc. which is a much larger fan base, but unable to communicate their love for silva on the western side of the internet like a playboy could.

also, I take it the reason silva had a harder time getting into the pubilc eye.....was because he was black. marketing Vitor is effortless.....marketing Silva however.....


the playboys are saying Anderson is jealous of Vitor, nah, if you think of it from a black mans stand point, hes not mad at Vitor, he wanted to crush what Vitor represents. The very people that walk around the streets of Curitba and Sao Paolo with their nose up, laughing at poor people. The reason to hate a playboy is not out of jealousy but rather that they enjoy and maintain the social structure. They never speak out and deep down enjoy the superiority. by smashing vitor, its like the working man smashing the rich guy. the bars all over brazils poor areas get to taste a sort of victory.

 

[The Infamous]

The 162 card is pretty weak name wise for it to be a big 4th of July show. Plus Silva is fighting an unknown in Weidman basically. They should have the undercard of 161 to build up the Silva card but I know Dana probably wanted to have big names since its the first time they are in that Canadian province

fukk 'names' This card is looking really good, especially in terms of excitement. The card pretty much has a mini FW tournament, all fights look to def. deliver. It's pretty BS that Lamas/KZ isn't the co-main, it's a much more significant fight than Edgar/Oliveira.

 

[The Infamous]

Weidman is one of the best wrestler in the UFC right now. He was a 2time NCAA Division I All-American. He beat Bader and Phil Davis in college. He wrestled the same division (he's the only one not fighting at 205, even though he should be). He can take Anderson down. Believe that. He'd beat Chael in a wrestling match now as well.

His BJJ is sick too. That's why everyone is really giving him a chance. This is from 2009...

"The phrase "moral victory" is always met with some skepticism in sports. You either win or you lose, and there's little to be said for "playing hard."

Not in the case of Chris Weidman at ADCC 2009.

Weidman, a 25-year-old understudy of Matt Serra and Ray Longo, won the ADCC East Coast Trials to earn his berth to Barcelona. In the deep and talented 88-kilogram division, a dominant first-round points victory over Spaniard Daniel Tabera on Saturday assured the native New Yorker nothing but crowd hostility, and a quarter-final match-up against one of the best pound-for-pound grapplers in the world, Andre Galvao. Yet, in spite of the gulf in submission experience, the BJJ purple belt was sensational against one of the world's best black belts.

Just seconds into the bout, Galvao locked up a deep omoplata on Weidman, which he used to roll backwards, take Weidman's back, and nearly armbar him. From there, the four-time All-American at Nassau Community College and Hofstra attacked Galvao with brilliant throws from the clinch before the points period, which against nearly any other grappler in the world, would have landed him in dominant position.

Weidman's potent base allowed him to shut down Galvao's deep half guard game, as well as allowing him to attack with submissions of his own. Rather than play the passive points game that many wrestling converts do at ADCC, Weidman trapped Galvao with both a brabo choke and a Peruvian necktie, forcing the multiple-time BJJ world champion to work far harder than was anticipated. Galvao eventually used his savvy to score during the points period, passing guard and earning a 4-0 points victory.

However, the crucial thing to consider is that Weidman's primary focus is MMA -- a venue he's already looked stellar in through his first two fights. For such a novice fighter to be so aggressive and technical in a pure grappling competition against one of the world's best speaks volumes to what a great MMA middleweight Chris Weidman may become."

with all of that said I hope Anderson KO's him in highlight reel fashion.

Good post. People need to realize that Weidman is a legitimate threat, although I still see Anderson taking this fight.

 

[jackswstd]

Good post. People need to realize that Weidman is a legitimate threat, although I still see Anderson taking this fight.

My thing is he keeps saying "I see his weaknesses" etc.. watching tape and being in there when the cage door closes are two different things. He's talking like Anderson will just be there for him to submit or takedown at will.