The Official Seeking Jesus Christ in 2022 Thread

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[Dak Pickscott]

Good Morning guys,


For ye were sometimes in darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light

And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit

See then that ye walk circumspectly; not as fools, but as wise,

Redeeming the time, because the days are evil

Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise

And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord

 

[Squirtle]

Phillipians 4:6-7 In nothing be anxious, but in everything by prayer and petition, along with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
7: And the peace of God which surpasses every man's understanding, will guard your hearts and thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Edit: I want to highlight the bolded, the verse basically tells us to not worry about anything, just ask God for whatever we may need, but we must also never forget to give thanks for what we already have. Be thankful for what the Lord has done for us, and be hopeful for what He will do for us.

 

[Dak Pickscott]

Phillipians 4:6-7 In nothing be anxious, but in everything by prayer and petition, along with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
7: And the peace of God which surpasses every man's understanding, will guard your hearts and thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Means a lot to me bro. We get so caught up in establishing our own understanding of this world man we can't do that

 

[Squirtle]

Means a lot to me bro. We get so caught up in establishing our own understanding of this world man we can't do that

Amen bro same for me.

 

[2CT]

1. Where is the scripture to support this?
2. Slavery inherently has racial implications because 1 group is being subjected to a lower state or class.
3. God himself was racially biased and ordered killings of non-israelites including the babies.

Exhibit A: 1 Samuel 15:2-3

2. This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.

3. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys

Why were they order to kill these people and not told to obey them? Contradictory right?

In biblical times slavery was based off the economy and social class not race and the Bible condemns the American slave trade due to how the slaves were attained. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their masters.

“Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” Exodus 21:16

context is crucial when the Bible speaks about slavery in the Old Testament

 

[...and some waffle fries]

In biblical times slavery was based off the economy and social class not race and the Bible condemns the American slave trade due to how the slaves were attained. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their masters.

“Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” Exodus 21:16

context is crucial when the Bible speaks about slavery in the Old Testament

You never showed scripture to support this. You giving alot of interpolation and no scripture.

The random scripture you did quote. Is when God was given commandments to a specific group of people (Hebrews) about indentured servitude within the Hebrew social construct NOT a directive on enslavement to all people. (non-hebrews)

This is how the chapter starts off about Hebrew Indentured Servitude. Exodus 21:2

2. If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything.

You right context is everything. See what you did was interpolated a text and applied a misunderstood concept.

Exodus 21:16. Under what jurisdiction is this law applied? To whom was the law given to? Who will be doing the killing? The answer to these questions completely dismantles and eradicates your American Slave Trade rhetoric. Sounds good but your understanding is misapplied.

Preachers do this alot especially with tithing.

The scripture goes on to talk about murder within the context of the Hebrew societal construct. These laws are NOT applicable to all people.

12. Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death.

13. However, if it is not done intentionally, but God lets it happen, they are to flee to a place I will designate.

14. But if anyone schemes and kills someone deliberately, that person is to be taken from my altar and put to death.

What other people had an altar for the Hebrew God where this law can be applied? These are laws specifically for 1 group. You are misapplying scripture.

Now I gave you 1 Samuel 15:3 where God ordered the genocide of non-israelites. It should be understood that murder is permmisable its just unlawful under certain pretext.

You got alot of studying to do.

 

[Texasdymond]

This thread is awesome. This is why the coli needs a spiritually and Christianity forum.

I personally would like this thread to stay free from debates and arguing

Just uplifting bible verses and breaking down the word so it's understood.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

[Morose Polymath]

@SireSiah#KWU

 

[2CT]

You never showed scripture to support this. You giving alot of interpolation and no scripture.

The random scripture you did quote. Is when God was given commandments to a specific group of people (Hebrews) about indentured servitude within the Hebrew social construct NOT a directive on enslavement to all people. (non-hebrews)

This is how the chapter starts off about Hebrew Indentured Servitude. Exodus 21:2

2. If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything.

You right context is everything. See what you did was interpolated a text and applied a misunderstood concept.

Exodus 21:16. Under what jurisdiction is this law applied? To whom was the law given to? Who will be doing the killing? The answer to these questions completely dismantles and eradicates your American Slave Trade rhetoric. Sounds good but your understanding is misapplied.

Preachers do this alot especially with tithing.

The scripture goes on to talk about murder within the context of the Hebrew societal construct. These laws are NOT applicable to all people.

12. Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death.

13. However, if it is not done intentionally, but God lets it happen, they are to flee to a place I will designate.

14. But if anyone schemes and kills someone deliberately, that person is to be taken from my altar and put to death.

What other people had an altar for the Hebrew God where this law can be applied? These are laws specifically for 1 group. You are misapplying scripture.

Now I gave you 1 Samuel 15:3 where God ordered the genocide of non-israelites. It should be understood that murder is permmisable its just unlawful under certain pretext.

You got alot of studying to do.

Here's a few scriptures about economic slavery that relate to my interpolation

"The rich rules over the poor, And the borrower becomes the lender's slave." Proverbs 22:7

"At the end of every seven years you shall grant a remission of debts. "This is the manner of remission: every creditor shall release what he has loaned to his neighbor; he shall not exact it of his neighbor and his brother, because the Lord's remission has been proclaimed." Deuteronomy 15:1-2

"If a man borrows anything from his neighbor, and it is injured or dies while its owner is not with it, he shall make full restitution." Exodus 22:14

The Hebrew laws can very well be applicable to all people and it wouldn't be far fetched because most of the books in the New Testament were written in direction to a specific group of people but they were meant for all mankind. The scriptures serve dual purpose as instruction to the people of that era and modern times but with that being said believers read the Old Testament under the pretense that most of the barbaric and vile things happening under the Mosaic law were reflections of the world under the sinful reign of Satan and were a precursor to Jesus' sacrifice for salvation. The world is still under the reign of Satan today but believers can choose to accept Christ rather than seek vengeance on each other through killing, enslavement, blood sacrifices, etc

As far as the verse from Samuel, I cannot provide an answer to that because I can't explain why God makes his commandments but I trust that He is a true and just God with foresight that is much more in depth than what I can comprehend as a human being.

This discussion ain't really what this thread is about though and you're derailing. Your original inquiry was about clarification on the "slaves should obey their masters" quotation and I have posted the scriptural context behind it so for any further back and forth discussion I would encourage you to make your own thread regarding the matter

 

[Dak Pickscott]

This thread is awesome. This is why the coli needs a spiritually and Christianity forum.

I personally would like this thread to stay free from debates and arguing

Just uplifting bible verses and breaking down the word so it's understood.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

I agree I want this thread to stay away from debating/disputing also as that isn't the intent. We also have to be careful using our own understanding. Regardless tho I welcome believers and non as I believe we are supposed to try to reach both

 

[TransJenner]

1. Where is the scripture to support this?
2. Slavery inherently has racial implications because 1 group is being subjected to a lower state or class.
3. God himself was racially biased and ordered killings of non-israelites including the babies.

Exhibit A: 1 Samuel 15:2-3

2. This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.

3. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys

Why were they order to kill these people and not told to obey them? Contradictory right?

You do know why he did that for right ?

Geez you guys need to use better research

 

[...and some waffle fries]

You do know why he did that for right ?

Geez you guys need to use better research

Please explain

 

[Dak Pickscott]

Good Morning guys,

Grace be to you and peace to God the Father, and to our Lord Jesus Christ to whom be glory for ever and ever

Just wanted to drop some thought of encouragement on this Thursday morning:

"Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." Ephesians 6:11

 

[MikelArteta]

My brother in Christ don't let these coli fatherless heathens get to you