who will win french open

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Nero Christ

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Petko is an even more entertaining read :wow: Roland Garros III

Great insights about Coco's game and Sabalenka's comments

On Saturday, Coco Gauff crowned herself champion at a Grand Slam tournament I thought she would win first in her career and one she will be a threat at for years and years to come. I’m glad I showed enough foresight to analyse her game a week ago already and you can find all of that here.

Two differing game styles collided in the women’s final with Aryna Sabalenka’s willingness to produce winners and Coco Gauff’s defensive skills and tennis IQ. To understand the difference between the players, one needs to understand the difference in mentality. Players with an aggressive mindset (like Aryna) value winners hit more than unforced errors gained. It’s almost as if a clean winner counts double the points in terms of how it feels to the player. Whereas an extracted unforced error from the opponent is brushed over like it never happened. For Coco and players of Coco’s mindset, on the other hand, an unforced error from the other side is just as much confirmation for doing things right as a down-the-line shot nobody can reach. If you think of the quarterfinal match between Novak Djokovic and Alexander Zverev, for example, every mistake Zverev made was a confirmation of the strategy applied by Djokovic.

What casual tennis fans (and sometimes world number ones) don’t realise about Coco Gauff’s game is that it’s not only her court coverage that makes her so hard to play. It’s something entirely different and I would know because I lost to her when SHE WAS 15 YEARS OLD. LOL!

Her biggest strength is the fact that she recognises short balls quicker than anybody else and is up onto them within a fraction of a second. Even if she doesn’t hit a winner right off the bat, she takes time away from you, and over the course of a match puts the subliminal notion in your mind that you’re not allowed to drop anything short. You increase your baseline level pace, the risk goes up, the percentage of shot making goes down, and now the court has not only shrunk on the sides but also from front to back and you find yourself aiming at tiniest of margins with every single groundstroke you hit.

Look at it this way: The unforced errors hit by Coco’s opponents when she’s playing well are actually forced. Except, they are not forced by Coco’s previous shot (which is what usually goes into the forced error statistics) but they are forced by the entirety of her game and presence on the other side of the net and by choices she has made 20 minutes prior to the point of you netting a forehand.

The panic on Sabalenka’s face was caused by stress and stress is the body’s response to a challenging situation your system is not sure it can overcome. The smaller the court on the other side got, the higher the stress levels felt for Aryna. The match point was a summary of the match. Aryna missed a backhand wide, aiming for the ultimate precision in tennis: The line. The moment you start aiming for lines, time has already been up 10 minutes ago. And that’s how Coco wins matches and titles and trophies. First she steals your space, then she steals your time.
 
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It's still a country club sport


ya i been wanting to get my niece into it, but its expensive as hell.

I mean, obviously there public courts at hella parks, but you need instruction.

i wanna start playing too, already took up golf these last few years and i love it
 

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He's leaving some stuff out.

Some of us remember the temper tantrums, the early retirements and just the general poor disposition he had. Now credit to him, he grew up and changed but like you said, he ain't telling the full story here.
 

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ya i been wanting to get my niece into it, but its expensive as hell.

I mean, obviously there public courts at hella parks, but you need instruction.

i wanna start playing too, already took up golf these last few years and i love it

I know back when I was in high school, we could get on the tennis team and get lessons and this wasn't some wealthy high school I went to. So see if they offer that for extracurricular activities at her local school.

Also watch this guy's videos Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons

Generally very insightful and proper techniques being discussed, but also just go around various clubs and see if you can talk someone into teaching your niece. Some folks are willing to be helpful (obviously you'll have to pay for their time)
 

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He's leaving some stuff out.

Some of us remember the temper tantrums, the early retirements and just the general poor disposition he had. Now credit to him, he grew up and changed but like you said, he ain't telling the full story here.

The mid match retirements use to be nassssty work from him too :russ:
 

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How yall feel about folks who retire in the last sets with a few games left in the match?

I personally hate the down 2 sets (or a set if it’s best of 3) and a player down say 3-0 and then they retire.

I get it, live to see another day, but i hate it. Just tank the last few games and keep it moving imo.
 

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How yall feel about folks who retire in the last sets with a few games left in the match?

I personally hate the down 2 sets (or a set if it’s best of 3) and a player down say 3-0 and then they retire.

I get it, live to see another day, but i hate it. Just tank the last few games and keep it moving imo.

If you’re not seriously injured and in risk of doing further damage…finish the match
 
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