LiveFromLondon
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My point was Fedal wouldn't have comeback from 2 sets down to win, dont think either has ever done that in a slam final iirc
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Ah right. I agree with you there.
And, let's be real. Djokovic should already have twenty majors.
Yapdatfool
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And, let's be real. Djokovic should already have twenty majors.
Shouldn't have hit the ball at the lines judge
Just like Nalbandian shouldn't kicked the sign
Piff Huxtable
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I don't know man. Zverev was waiting in the SemisAnd, let's be real. Djokovic should already have twenty majors.
This is what cost Stef the match more than anything. After the first two sets, it felt like he was on second serve every single point. His first serve absolutely fell apart.
I think Fed is the only guy who can stand in Novak's way at Wimbledon as long as it's playing really fast. I'd give Barrettini a chance as well.
@MillionMills still waiting on the next generation.
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This. Novak returning so well is the dagger all the time! He returns your first serve well so when you have moments where it breaks down the job is even tougher.
Couldnt find any time related stats but I'm sure Tsitsi's serve game were something like 50% longer than Djoko's. He had 2 extremely disputed ones in the 3rd and 4th and he lost both after several deuces. I think the serve game he lost in the 3rd lasted 11 minutes or something. Must have been excruciating.This is what cost Stef the match more than anything. After the first two sets, it felt like he was on second serve every single point. His first serve absolutely fell apart.
I think Fed is the only guy who can stand in Novak's way at Wimbledon as long as it's playing really fast. I'd give Barrettini a chance as well.
@MillionMills still waiting on the next generation.
I put it on experience but after some time he should have tried going with accuracy rather than power on his 1st serves because his 1st serve percentage wasnt that good so he needlessly invited pressure on himself.
But I'm not too worried on this new gen. Meddy, Tsitsi and Zverev will get theirs, they have the quality, they just need consistency. Medveded lostxa 5 setter against Rafa. Tsitsi lost a 5 setter against Nole. They are close and also, they are young enough to avoid getting barred by the big 3 their whole career... Unless those 3 play until 50
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Couldnt find any time related stats but I'm sure Tsitsi's serve game were something like 50% longer than Djoko's. He had 2 extremely disputed ones in the 3rd and 4th and he lost both after several deuces. I think the serve game he lost in the 3rd lasted 11 minutes or something. Must have been excruciating.
I put it on experience but after some time he should have tried going with accuracy rather than power on his 1st serves because his 1st serve percentage wasnt that good so he needlessly invited pressure on himself.
But I'm not too worried on this new gen. Meddy, Tsitsi and Zverev will get theirs, they have the quality, they just need consistency. Medveded lostxa 5 setter against Rafa. Tsitsi lost a 5 setter against Nole. They are close and also, they are young enough to avoid getting barred by the big 3 their whole career... Unless those 3 play until 50
They will get theirs, but they got some work to do to knock Novak and Nadal off for a few years. Fed may be declining due to age and injuries at this stage of his career but wont be a push over.
malbaker86
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@Regular_P im watching Fed’s grass court match now and he still, age and bad knees and all, is one of the top movers in the game. I tell you what though, his movement from like 04-06 was GOD TIER on all surface. He was so damn quick and that forehand was 
when he use to put some juice on it. We can debate his level of opps during that time period all we want but just looking at him, regardless of who was on the other side of the net, was 
. It’s easy to see why he was so dominate at the US Open during that time period
when he use to put some juice on it. We can debate his level of opps during that time period all we want but just looking at him, regardless of who was on the other side of the net, was . It’s easy to see why he was so dominate at the US Open during that time period
Which grass tourney ? Halle I'm guessing ?@Regular_P im watching Fed’s grass court match now and he still, age and bad knees and all, is one of the top movers in the game. I tell you what though, his movement from like 04-06 was GOD TIER on all surface. He was so damn quick and that forehand was
malbaker86
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yep. He won in straights
Not surprised, his serve was on point at RG. Slowed it down but bumped its accuracy up. I'll have to look at some of his matches this week to gauge him better.
He was so fluid back then. His accuracy was so pinpoint because he was a step ahead and got where he wanted at the right time. He LOOKS the same now but he's clearly a couple steps slower. Him making it look so effortless makes people think he's still the same as 15 years ago.@Regular_P im watching Fed’s grass court match now and he still, age and bad knees and all, is one of the top movers in the game. I tell you what though, his movement from like 04-06 was GOD TIER on all surface. He was so damn quick and that forehand was
Fed will always be GOAT in my eyes because his prime was better than anybody else's. I'd compare it to prime Pedro for baseball pitchers. Maybe Joker winds up with a better career (though he still isn't there yet) but Fed's best was the greatest.
My theory is the lack of comp (or that he was just THAT great) in his specific age group is the reason he struggled so much against Nadal. He didn't adjust to Nadal until later in his career. I'd put it like this: Nadal adapted so he could beat Fed while Fed kept his focus on the field at large. So while Fed was killing everybody else and Nadal would get picked off here and there by others, Nadal got better against Fed until he was winning most of their matchups.
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My concern about the next gen is how much they're still getting rolled by the big 3 and there's been a lack of consistency. Medvedev is already 25 and still hasn't won anything; Zverev has never beaten a top ten player at a Grand Slam; Stef is the best of the next gen and I have the most faith in him but that was a bad loss yesterday.Couldnt find any time related stats but I'm sure Tsitsi's serve game were something like 50% longer than Djoko's. He had 2 extremely disputed ones in the 3rd and 4th and he lost both after several deuces. I think the serve game he lost in the 3rd lasted 11 minutes or something. Must have been excruciating.
I put it on experience but after some time he should have tried going with accuracy rather than power on his 1st serves because his 1st serve percentage wasnt that good so he needlessly invited pressure on himself.
But I'm not too worried on this new gen. Meddy, Tsitsi and Zverev will get theirs, they have the quality, they just need consistency. Medveded lostxa 5 setter against Rafa. Tsitsi lost a 5 setter against Nole. They are close and also, they are young enough to avoid getting barred by the big 3 their whole career... Unless those 3 play until 50
We had an entire generation go by with nothing to show for it. The last batch of great players was born by '88. I wonder how the last 5-10 years would have played out if Del Potro and Murray never got injured. JDP was never the same after his wrist injuries and Murray had a slew of them after reaching #1 in 2016 (plus he had back issues before then).