The one claim about Kobe that I never understood was....

[Absolut]

He was the best player in the league for at least 4 years

is this really what the kobe stan has been reduced to?

 

[theoretic]

I see the "he was never the best in the league" argument a lot over at realgm, and it's usually those darryl morey, john hollinger ass nikkas with their advanced statistics claiming it.

them nikkas get the michael bolton treatment

 

[Danny Up]

I don't remember VC being compared to MJ, even when he was in Toronto.

Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it's not true.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsSPTxH4Swc]Vince Carter & Michael Jordan Comparison[ESPN] - YouTube[/ame]

 

[god shamgod]

how about the years Lebron was number 1 seed and lost to the teams Kobe beat? Orlando and Boston....

bu bu but...

god damn you been on a woat posting streak lately

You have 6,000 + posts of Woat posting.We're talking about the best player in the nba kid,the lakers had better teams but kobe was never the best individual Player in the league

 

[Malta]

You're a fakkit, I have nothing to add to this shytty thread other than that :fukkyapost:

 

[ROFL_GUY]

 

[Absolut]

it went from comparisons with michael jordan to an argument that kobe was the best player in the league for a whopping 4 seasons. lol @ how far the stanning has fallen in a couple short years

 

[ROFL_GUY]

2007 NBA FINALS SPURS(4-0)


2007 NBA Finals Composite Box Score | Basketball-Reference.com

Bron 22.0, 7.0reb 6.8asst

2011 NBA FINALS MAVERICKS (4-2)

2011 NBA Finals Composite Box Score | Basketball-Reference.com

Best PLayer -- WADE 26.5, 7.0reb 5.2 asst


toss up between who was the 2nd best player between Bron and Bosh


Bron 17.8, 7.2reb 6.8asst

BOSH 18.5, 7.3 reb 1.0asst

Chalmers avg 11.8 2.7reb 3.5 asst





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[CantStop]

You have 6,000 + posts of Woat posting.We're talking about the best player in the nba kid,the lakers had better teams but kobe was never the best individual Player in the league

Lakers had better teams but Lebron's teams always had a better record than Kobe's. Makes a lot of sense

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

I don't remember VC being compared to MJ, even when he was in Toronto.

You were in diapers.

 

[Da_Eggman]

96-98 Jordan
99-01 Shaq/duncan
02-04 Duncan
05-present Lebron

Kobe was never the best player in the nba

pretty close more like

96-98 Jordan
99-02 Shaq
03-05 Duncan?Garnet
06-present Lebron


the two best ways to judge a players impact is Player Efficiency Rating (PER) and Win Shares (WS)

the stats cant be argued there all there for anybody to see

2012-13 NBA LeBron James 31.59 MIA
2011-12 NBA LeBron James 30.74 MIA
2010-11 NBA LeBron James 27.27 MIA
2009-10 NBA LeBron James 31.11 CLE
2008-09 NBA LeBron James 31.67 CLE
2007-08 NBA LeBron James 29.14 CLE
2006-07 NBA Dwyane Wade 28.91 MIA
2005-06 NBA Dirk Nowitzki 28.06 DAL
2004-05 NBA Kevin Garnett 28.20 MIN
2003-04 NBA Kevin Garnett 29.44 MIN
2002-03 NBA Tracy McGrady 30.27 ORL
2001-02 NBA Shaquille O'Neal 29.68 LAL
2000-01 NBA Shaquille O'Neal 30.23 LAL
1999-00 NBA Shaquille O'Neal 30.65 LAL
1998-99 NBA Shaquille O'Neal 30.55 LAL
1997-98 NBA Shaquille O'Neal 28.79 LAL

Season Lg Player WS Tm
2012-13 NBA LeBron James 19.30 MIA
2011-12 NBA LeBron James 14.45 MIA
2010-11 NBA LeBron James 15.58 MIA
2009-10 NBA LeBron James 18.46 CLE
2008-09 NBA LeBron James 20.25 CLE
2007-08 NBA Chris Paul 17.79 NOH
2006-07 NBA Dirk Nowitzki 16.34 DAL
2005-06 NBA Dirk Nowitzki 17.72 DAL
2004-05 NBA Kevin Garnett 16.11 MIN
2003-04 NBA Kevin Garnett 18.33 MIN
2002-03 NBA Tim Duncan 16.45 SAS
2001-02 NBA Tim Duncan 17.81 SAS
2000-01 NBA Shaquille O'Neal 14.94 LAL
1999-00 NBA Shaquille O'Neal 18.65 LAL


Kobe NEVER led the league in either one pretty much the only so called top player to never lead in even one year

Chamberlain, Shaq. Kareem, Bird. Jordan, Lebron all did it in MULTIPLE years

once again Kobe NEVER EVER DID

not even once

 

[Danny Up]

it went from comparisons with michael jordan to an argument that kobe was the best player in the league for a whopping 4 seasons. lol @ how far the stanning has fallen in a couple short years

Jordan wasn't the best for no more that what 6 years. So what exactly is your argument. Jordan was a called a selfish ballhog, who would never win shyt or be good as Magic and Bird to the undisputed GOAT in like a 2 year span.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

2007 NBA FINALS SPURS(4-0)


2007 NBA Finals Composite Box Score | Basketball-Reference.com

Bron 22.0, 7.0reb 6.8asst

2011 NBA FINALS MAVERICKS (4-2)

2011 NBA Finals Composite Box Score | Basketball-Reference.com

Best PLayer -- WADE 26.5, 7.0reb 5.2 asst


toss up between who was the 2nd best player between Bron and Bosh


Bron 17.8, 7.2reb 6.8asst

BOSH 18.5, 7.3 reb 1.0asst

Chalmers avg 11.8 2.7reb 3.5 asst





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[verbaltelekinesis]

it went from comparisons with michael jordan to an argument that kobe was the best player in the league for a whopping 4 seasons. lol @ how far the stanning has fallen in a couple short years

You're missing the point, the number of years is irrelevant. It's the claim that he never was. What was the point of this post anyway? And what does this have to do with MJ?

 

[Born2BKing]

Lakers had better teams but Lebron's teams always had a better record than Kobe's. Makes a lot of sense

Come on breh, please don't tell me you think Bron had better teams in Cleveland.