The one claim about Kobe that I never understood was....

[Da_Eggman]

Stop it with this WS and PER shyt! It's ruining the game. These advanced metrics are fine for baseball, but it's amazing to me how many people will look at numbers and ignore what your eyes see.

Dwayne Wade has a better PER than Magic, Kareem, Barkley, Duncan and Malone. You see how fukking stupid advanced stats can be?!

yes as a career stat it is flawed but purely base on a season its a perfect gauge

and kobe NEVER EVER was the best in the nba for a season its that simple

great volume scorer that was blessed to be on very good teams that pretty much sums him up

 

[god shamgod]

No he wasn't. Stop with the revisionist history

So a man who won the mvp 3x from 87-93 and came in 2nd twice in that span wasn't the best player in the league?

96-98 won 2 more mvp's and came in 2nd in 97 while winning 10 scoring titles in that same span?

 

[Born2BKing]

They tried to give him and Kobe the next MJ tag and were debating for a while who was the better player. I remember Jordan saying he would pick Kobe before Vince if he had the choice.

Those talks were brief as hell and nobody took that shyt serious. Vince has never even been the best player in the league for 1 season.

 

[p00rky]

1 ring in 8yrs makes you the best player in the nba



see how they spin this with fg% and avg 7asst a game







.

Didn't he take his shytty Cavs team to the finals. Championship ring is a team accomplishment. I guess Barkley, Ewing, and Miller are crap than

 

[Born2BKing]

Didn't he take his shytty Cavs team to the finals. Championship ring is a team accomplishment. I guess Barkley, Ewing, and Miller are crap than

Don't forget Malone and Stockton

 

[Stealth]

how about the years Lebron was number 1 seed and lost to the teams Kobe beat? Orlando and Boston....

bu bu but...

god damn you been on a woat posting streak lately

Lakers beat* basketball isn't a individual sport. stop trying to make your idol sound better then he really is. The lakers beat orlando and boston, not kobe.

 

[Stealth]

LeBron James is the most unfairly hated player to ever play the game. It's really inexplicable.

 

[Absolut]

The fukking EYE TEST!!! You know the shyt that was used before all these bullshyt metrics. The funny thing is people who have played the game readily acknowledge that Kobe was the best player in the league for quite some time, it's basically numbers nerd and stat guys that argue to the contrary and their be all to tend all is PER or some advanced metric.

lol @ shytting on a metric that actually tries to quantify how productive your on court minutes were in a particular season, but you wanna base this argument on the eye test. what made kobe better than dirk, bron, kg etc in those particular seasons other than the eye test? you got one guy claiming kobe is the best based on the eye test, dismissing anything that tries to say otherwise, and another guy arguing that all kobe was was a good volume scorer. you always get the 2 extreme arguments, and then wonder why no one can have a sane debate

 

[Da_Eggman]

Don't forget Malone and Stockton

he must also think Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton, Warren Moon, etc etc

 

[Stealth]

the basketball talk on here is so bad. it would be 100x time better if all the fgt kobe stans just left and joined lakernation or lakerground. At least over there people will agree with your delusional opinions and everybody over there hates lebron

 

[god shamgod]

They tried to give him and Kobe the next MJ tag and were debating for a while who was the better player. I remember Jordan saying he would pick Kobe before Vince if he had the choice.

I remember that too that was summer 01 and vince caught mad feelings cuz of it and played the toughest defense of his life on jordan in the preseason when the wizards played the raptors

For about 2 years (99-01)people were comparing vc to jordan.2 NC players who were high flying athletes and vince was hittiing a bunch of clutch gw shots during that 99-00 season

 

[Jesus]

He was the best for a couple of years....

 

[verbaltelekinesis]

lol @ shytting on a metric that actually tries to quantify how productive your on court minutes were in a particular season, but you wanna base this argument on the eye test. what made kobe better than dirk, bron, kg etc in those particular seasons other than the eye test?

LOL @ you dismissing the only thing that could tell you if player A was better than player B before these metrics existed. Nevermind though, use all the metrics you want.

 

[Swagnificent]

Kobe was the best from 03-09. 2010-present is LeBron. 98-02 was Shaq.

Duncan was never better than Shaq/Kobe.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Didn't he take his shytty Cavs team to the finals. Championship ring is a team accomplishment. I guess Barkley, Ewing, and Miller are crap than

swept and avg 22, 7, 7,



bronze stans confuse best regular season stats with best player


i wont argu with you that he didnt have the best regualr season stats becasue i guess he did if you look at the numbers



but is that what makes you the best player in the nba? thats the real question..


then in 011 he avg 18,7,7 in the finals... same year during the regualr season he avg 27,7,7,


i will give you last year that he was the best player in the nba since he delivered in the PO FINALLY... and was able to maintain his season avg numbers through out the PO unlike previous efforts


like i said hes had the best regualr season stats over that time period but is that what makes you the best player in the nba?




also from 05-present how many teams with over 50 wins has bron neat in the PO?