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wait what?

that's just for the salary cap. the guys still get the money.

that guy has no idea how nfl contracts work.

in fact, he doenst even seem to understand how a basic contract works.

nikka even HIGHLIGHTED the "for salary cap purposes" part of his lil proof post...yet seems to have no idea what that means.

"fanene should pay back his signing bonus...cause for salary cap purposes the amount is prorated over the length of the contract, even tho the bonus is paid in full up front" what the hell does that even mean? dude musta forgot Steven Nash still gettin his 10 mil this year even tho he isnt going to play 1 game.
 

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that guy has no idea how nfl contracts work.

in fact, he doenst even seem to understand how a basic contract works.

nikka even HIGHLIGHTED the "for salary cap purposes" part of his lil proof post...yet seems to have no idea what that means.

"fanene should pay back his signing bonus...cause for salary cap purposes the amount is prorated over the length of the contract, even tho the bonus is paid in full up front" what the hell does that even mean? dude musta forgot Steven Nash still gettin his 10 mil this year even tho he isnt going to play 1 game.

Yeah "for salary cap purposes" they pay you upfront for games you have yet to play in the signing bonus so your cap hit won't be as high in the upcoming years. Nice try tho.

Lol at bringing up Steve Nash as if NFL and NBA contracts work the same. I think you're the one that knows nothing about how NFL contracts work. :russ:

Go debate your Janitor Uncle.
 

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Yeah "for salary cap purposes" they pay you upfront for games you have yet to play in the signing bonus so your cap hit won't be as high in the upcoming years. Nice try tho.

Lol at bringing up Steve Nash as if NFL and NBA contracts work the same. I think you're the one that knows nothing about how NFL contracts work. :russ:

Go debate your Janitor Uncle.
what you're talking about has to do with the rules of the salary cap and is completely irrelevant in this case :yeshrug:

also the analogy he made wasn't perfect, but it's not a bad one since he's talking about the concept of dead money, i.e. money that is working against you cap-wise but you're getting nothing out of it. as a Cowboys fan i am all too familiar with this:mjcry:
 

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It would be one thing if they wanted to get Fanene's signing bonus to somehow not count against the cap. The league is cutthroat about getting the smallest advantage, so that's not really a big deal.

What the patriots are doing is trying to make a legal argument that Fanene owes them $3.5 million dollars, which is scummy as fukk considering he was injured while he was clearly under contract with them.
 

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Yeah "for salary cap purposes" they pay you upfront for games you have yet to play in the signing bonus so your cap hit won't be as high in the upcoming years. Nice try tho.

Lol at bringing up Steve Nash as if NFL and NBA contracts work the same. I think you're the one that knows nothing about how NFL contracts work. :russ:

Go debate your Janitor Uncle.

You are so bold and so wrong. It's fukking hilarious. The signing bonus is guaranteed money to the player. It doesn't matter if he gets cut the next day he's still entitled to the money. The team can control the distribution of the funds as long as he's on the team. Teams used to circumvent the cap by giving high ass signing bonuses, but they changed the CBA so signing bonuses count against it which is why they spread it out.

Robert Kraft must be your 2nd cousin or something for you to argue against this shyt. Just admit they're scummy and move on.
 

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Yeah "for salary cap purposes" they pay you upfront for games you have yet to play in the signing bonus so your cap hit won't be as high in the upcoming years. Nice try tho.

Lol at bringing up Steve Nash as if NFL and NBA contracts work the same. I think you're the one that knows nothing about how NFL contracts work. :russ:

Go debate your Janitor Uncle.

guaranteed money is guaranteed money. the signing bonus in the nfl is guaranteed money. full nba contracts are guaranteed money. there is no difference between the two.

exactly, he was paid upfront for games he has not played. what does that have to do with anything associated with this thread?

even my "janitor uncle" belongs to a union and signed a contract with his employer. if he gets injured on the job, he will still get paid whether or not he ever mops another floor again. maybe you should get some tips from him on how contracts work.

i know you're an at-will employee at your min wage job so a lot of this stuff isnt directly relevant to you, therefore i dont really fault you for not knowing what you're talking about. hopefully this will make more sense: when your mom put that $55 on your prepaid boost mobile phone...they keep the $55 whether you actually call your boyfriend or not during that month. you dont get your money back because you didnt end up using their service.
 
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Goodell needs to come down hard on them. this is worse than SpyGate.

-Suspend Bellchieck for the 2015-2016 season
-Fine the owner $5M.
-Suspend the Owner for the 2015-2016 season
-Take away their First and 2nd round picks for 2015 & 2016 seasons
-Must pay the player $10M in grievance
 
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guaranteed money is guaranteed money. the signing bonus in the nfl is guaranteed money. full nba contracts are guaranteed money. there is no difference between the two.

exactly, he was paid upfront for games he has not played. what does that have to do with anything associated with this thread?

even my "janitor uncle" belongs to a union and signed a contract with his employer. if he gets injured on the job, he will still get paid whether or not he ever mops another floor again. maybe you should get some tips from him on how contracts work.

i know you're an at-will employee at your min wage job so a lot of this stuff isnt directly relevant to you, therefore i dont really fault you for not knowing what you're talking about. hopefully this will make more sense: when your mom put that $55 on your prepaid boost mobile phone...they keep the $55 whether you actually call your boyfriend or not during that month. you dont get your money back because you didnt end up using their service.

:russ:


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It would be one thing if they wanted to get Fanene's signing bonus to somehow not count against the cap. The league is cutthroat about getting the smallest advantage, so that's not really a big deal.

What the patriots are doing is trying to make a legal argument that Fanene owes them $3.5 million dollars, which is scummy as fukk considering he was injured while he was clearly under contract with them.

Clearly you haven't read the facts of the Case. #1 according To Fanene's lawyer the case was settled. #2 he was Injured prior to Being a part of the Patriots(Fanene was released by the Patriots in August 2012 for “failure to disclose physical condition,” a claim that if proved would have allowed the team to recoup a signing bonus. The Patriots later sought to reclaim Fanene’s bonus money on the grounds that he had arthritis in his left knee and failed to disclose that he needed pain medications to practice and play.) it's clearly stated they wanted some of the signing bonus back because he failed to disclose an Arthritis But then again why am I even arguing this with you? I don't know.


Go Debate your Absent Father.
 

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For salary cap considerations, the signing bonus amount is divided by the number of years of the contract and prorated equally for each year.
So, if a player signed a 5 year contract with a signing bonus of $10 million, $2 million of the bonus is applied to the salary cap for each year, even though he got the money in year 1.

If the player is cut before the contract expires, the remaining years of the signing bonus hit the salary cap for the upcoming season. So, if the player with the 5 year contract and $10 million signing bonus was cut after 3 years, the remaining $4 million of the bonus would be counted against the salary cap the next season.



Then again my question is HOW MANY GAMES DID HE PLAY!?!? and Johnathan Fanene was NOT that enticing to be given a $3.8 Million signing bonus just for his signature to play for the Patriots. I don't really expect you to understand all this because I can see the hidden agenda of you coli nikkaz but its funny you taking a NFLPA grievance and state it as facts.

I hope you feel stupid. Real stupid
 
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