The Real Reason Why Democrats Are So Unpopular - Vox

[im_sleep]

Is this an indictment of the Democrats or America as a whole?

Cause I’m generally confused what your angle is here.

What’s the point of you highlighting the %1 support for a reparation study in 2013 with the smilie as if the article isn’t highlighting the 56% increase in support as a reason the Democrats are losing elections?

 

[King Poetic]

Everything comes down to the swing states each election period

U have Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania to convince to vote democrat and u win the election

The West Coast and East Coast with Illinois in the middle will be blue

The South will always be Red

Hillary fukked up because she ignored traveling to Michigan and Wisconsin a lot

Kamala loss because she kept talking about abortion/women rights 24/7 at rallies in Michigan and Wisconsin when people are more concerned about jobs, prices and the border

The problem with democrats is they try to cater to the votes that really don’t matter instead of playing the game like trump and telling people bullshyt about bringing auto industry back, coal mining jobs back

Motherfukkers to busy interviewing mumble mouth Cardi B and have Billy Porter prancing around the White House

 

[Henry Orbit]

White women have told this country enough times they don’t want a woman as president. Just find the right white man that will speak and connect to these crackas in middle America about their daily pressing issues, all Republicans have is culture wars and fear-mongering

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Democrats lost due to white supremacy and tribalism, yea u got some people who voted on policies but u got way more who voted to preserve their way of life. “Equality seems like oppression to those accustomed to privilege..”

We need to kill the myth that it was about policy, because what economic policy did Trump run on?..or healthcare policy did he run off of??? Trump just ran off of white nationalism..

It was never about policy…

This is the truth right there. That quote works on many levels other than general white supremacy but people not ready to go into that without using whataboutisms

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

White women have told this country enough times they don’t want a woman as president. Just find the right white man that will speak and connect to these crackas in middle America about their daily pressing issues, all Republicans have is culture wars and fear-mongering

A conservative woman has a higher chance of winning than a left leaning one. Right leaning women are willing to conform to the standards of conservative white men. Strangely enough, some non white men find that appealing too

 

[Unbothered]

White women have told this country enough times that they don’t want a woman as president. Just find the right white man that will speak and connect to these crackas in middle America about their daily pressing issues, all Republicans have is culture wars and fear-mongering

The problem is that by doing this, Democrats will be alienating their base, focusing on a demographic that isn't a factor in their equation, and that's why, although people are saying they should just run a stereotypical White man in '28, that idea could be problematic.

Right now, the mainstays of the Dems are Black people, women, young people, gays, and minorities in general, as these groups are the future of the party. I've said it in another thread that the Democrats are adamant on having either a Black person, a woman, a person of color, etc as their leader.

White people don't really have a place in the Democratic party in terms of the future, that's not to say their support isn't necessary, but they're not the prime focus, which is why a lot of them have turned Red in recent elections. Appealing to the needs of White voters is more of a Republican thing at this point and time.

It's pretty evident through some of their presidential candidates the past 2 of the 3 elections, that's why even tho Biden won, many Congressional Dems were not exactly thrilled simply because they didn't believe in terms of image and representation, Biden wasn't sustainable in maintaining the voting base's support.

There's a reason why when Kamala took over for Biden, the whole party, specifically the voters, were ecstatic because she's the type of representation that best describes this base, and despite her woes, she has a very good chance of potentially winning the primary in 2028 because of the aforementioned.

 

[ORDER_66]

democrats bodying themselves cause they offer you nothing and then get mad when it falls into chaos cause they offered you nothing....

 

[Richard Glidewell]

This thread is the FAFO for so called skin folks. The slow steady progress people in your lineage have made has been eschewed in favor of what?! All while standing by and watching the painful deadly embarrassing emasculating dehumanizing movement toward progress be eroded instantaneously by the scribble of an idiot. The man was right, some of us can not will not should not be saved. some of yall are probably descended from william oneal ......

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

White women have told this country enough times they don’t want a woman as president. Just find the right white man that will speak and connect to these crackas in middle America about their daily pressing issues, all Republicans have is culture wars and fear-mongering

It's only been twice. It will happen.

 

[acri1]

The problem is that by doing this, Democrats will be alienating their base, focusing on a demographic that isn't a factor in their equation, and that's why, although people are saying they should just run a stereotypical White man in '28, that idea could be problematic.

Right now, the mainstays of the Dems are Black people, women, young people, gays, and minorities in general, as these groups are the future of the party. I've said it in another thread that the Democrats are adamant on having either a Black person, a woman, a person of color, etc as their leader.

White people don't really have a place in the Democratic party in terms of the future, that's not to say their support isn't necessary, but they're not the prime focus, which is why a lot of them have turned Red in recent elections. Appealing to the needs of White voters is more of a Republican thing at this point and time.

It's pretty evident through some of their presidential candidates the past 2 of the 3 elections, that's why even tho Biden won, many Congressional Dems were not exactly thrilled simply because they didn't believe in terms of image and representation, Biden wasn't sustainable in maintaining the voting base's support.

There's a reason why when Kamala took over for Biden, the whole party, specifically the voters, were ecstatic because she's the type of representation that best describes this base, and despite her woes, she has a very good chance of potentially winning the primary in 2028 because of the aforementioned.

What exactly constitutes "the needs of white voters"?

 

[The Phoenix]

that's the problem. biden might have been the last of a generation, of guys who could win a democratic primary, but then be taken seriously by the country and win the actual election

we'll see how 2028 shakes out, but i'm not getting my hopes up. Newsom's the frontrunner for now, and while he's a good politician, the amount of california nonsense and weird fakkitry he'll be expected to defend from the left is

Maybe so. But I would argue that we didn't really see Obama coming. After his convention speech in 2004, some may have said, "Oh, this guy can be a mover and shaker. Possibly even Senate Majority Leader one day." But they weren't pegging him for president until he started to really make moves in 06 and that was after it was clear the Bush administration had shyt the bed. We live in a different time now and everything seems like it's bad for the dems. But you have a bunch of Republicans in office now that has offered nothing and it only seems to be getting worse by the day. Time changes everything. Let's hope they have a worthy candidate cooking.

Biden both helped and hurt Dems. He should have immediately made it known that he would not be president for a second term as soon as he entered office. That way the machine could have churned and had a viable candidate in 2024. Say what you want about Harris, but I think she did a remarkable job to get as close as she did in that short amount of time. I put that loss on Biden's ego not her. That being said, I think she has to step aside. It isn't fair but I just don't think you can take that L and then bounce back. Gore actually won the election and still didn't challenge in 04. I also don't think Pete Buttigieg is the "guy?" for the job either but I saw something the other day saying he is the front runner. Sheesh. Dems need a good candidate and better messaging. End of story. You can fight all the trans battles you want and in my view even fight for reparations. Just don't LEAD with that. Because it's not that they are fighting for those things. When they lead with it, it makes some people think that is the ONLY thing they are fighting for and that can't happen.

 

[Fillerguy]

I can't tell if this a clickbait or they genuinely believe people wouldn't read the article or the data. Welcome Cacs data flat out states Dems focused too much on (climate, identity, rights) more than some of the immediate issues (cost of living, jobs, crime, immigration). None of these issues are inherently left or right issues.

The article talks about how congressmen have sponsored bills that haven't have covered our immediate issues above, but most of those bills never passed. They already had little or almost no support. That's more of an indictment on the Dems ineffectual legislation vs the actual policies. Welcome Cac also ignored the congressional gains and flips Dems experienced since 2016. Some districts even winning where Trump won.

But I expect nothing less from a conservative Democrat org like Welcome Cac. Their solution to Democratic party is to be a worst Republican to attract never-Trump republican voters. The article calls them out on this.

["Welcome PAC, an organization that backs center-left candidates, so as to build “a big-tent Democratic Party.”]

They don't give a fukk about the party base. They believe the Dems should expand the base and purge the progressives who are voting for the progressive Congressmen they believe are ruining the Democrat party.

 

[CoryMack]

Democrats went full retard with the whole LGBTQ agenda and shipping a bunch of migrants into historically black cities like DC and Chicago.

It’s what they’ve always done. It’s no mistake we’ve seen the Asian, Arab and Latino immigrants set up shop in our neighborhoods. It’s been going on for decades.

 

[Strapped]

Nothing gets done on both sides ,the way the government is set up is just inefficient & wasteful with way to many overlapping government agencies which drains our money with fees & taxes

 

[The Plug]

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