The Red State Murder Problem

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Democratic group points to "Red State Murder Problem" in push to turn tables on crime

• In Trump states, the rate was 8.20 murders per 100,000 residents.
• In Biden states, the rate was 5.78 murders per 100,000 residents.

• The six states with the highest per-capita murder rates all voted for President Trump in 2020 — as did 8 of the top 10.
  
  
  Bbbut New york, bbbut LA. "Dems are so bad at handling crime!"

Slippery slope.....

The blackest states are also included among a number of those red states. That's the excuse that would be used to explain it.

Southerners are more polite on the surface but we will happily drag you out into the woods at midnight and skin you with a Bowie knife while you're fully awake.

 

[OfTheCross]

I'm just learning this

 

[Neuromancer]

Coli brehs in red states will claim that murder is as natural as breathing and shooting kids is a casual accident.

Word.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Bbbut New york, bbbut LA. "Dems are so bad at handling crime!"

New York and L.A. actually have some of the lowest homicide rates of any big city in the country.

White liberals and their negro shills have no respect for people's intelligence.
Break down those states further and examine where the crimes and murders are concentrated. Who are the mayors of those cities?
Where are the majority of crimes and murders in a state like Louisiana is concentrated?

This is idiotic. Republican-led big cities are as bad or worse with murder than Democrat-led big cities in the same states and regions.



Stockton (17.8), San Bernardino (15.7), Bakersfield (10.8) and Fresno (10.6) are Republican mayors but their cities have far higher murder rates than Sacramento (7.8), Los Angeles (7.0), San Francisco (6.4), or Long Beach (4.7). 4 of the 5 highest murder rates in California cities are Republican mayors.

Jacksonville (12.4) and Miami (11.2) are Republican mayors but have higher homicide rates than Democrat-run cities in Florida like Tampa (10.1), Orlando (8.1), or St. Petersburg (7.6). 2 of the 2 highest murder rates in Florida cities are Republican mayors.

Tulsa (17.3) and Oklahoma City (12.5) are deep-red mayors in a deep-red state yet both have murder rates far above the national average. There aren't any big Democrat cities in Oklahoma, but the most similar Democrat-run cities in Texas all have lower murder rates.




The vast majority of big cities in the USA are always going to be Democrat-run because they're full of Black and Brown folk and ain't no way they're voting for racist-ass Republicans who they know don't want to do jack shyt for them. But they can control their state's gun laws, they can't control the larger societal factors that push the poverty and dysfunction into the cities while white flight gets to dominate the suburbs outside. Any big city with a lot of poverty that was run by a Republican major would have WORSE violence than a Democrat-run city, not less, and the #'s proof it. The only Republican areas with low violence rates are wealthy enclaves.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Your comparing cities (NY/LA) statistics to state statistics breh .... the question would be asked now is the crime mostly in red counties or blue counties ?

Example Cali ain't a dangerous state overall but Oakland, Fresno, and Stockton are the most violent cities in the country

Exactly.

You dumbasses played yourselves, Fresno and Stockton are both Republican-ran cities (as are Bakersfield and San Bernardino, the other two most violent cities in California). Oakland is the only Democrat-run city in the top-5 and it's obviously got historic problems that go far beyond who the mayor is.

 

[DEAD7]

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Most of the murders happen in democrat ran cites in those states.
Also most major and midseized cities are democrat ran

0 critical thinking nikka came to shill for republicacs as a reflex.

All of the highly densley populated cities are democrat ran, & crime happens from proximity.

Nobody wants to a Republican to lead a metropolis because they can't even govern small towns without them becoming shytholes

This. The ONLY thing that idiot ever posts are right-wing one-liner talking points. He can't even think through his arguments, he just drops more one-liners.

Cities are gonna be democrat-run regardless, but they can't control a lot of the gun and poverty and education measures where are set at the state level. If mayors had 100% control then White Flight never would have worked, but White people were able to move all the resources out of the cities and into the suburbs where they could control it for themselves.


There are always exceptions, no relationship is 100%, but generally if you look at the cities safely in blue states with no red states near the city, their homicide rates are lower. But if you look at the most violent cities, they're almost all in red or purple states with weak gun laws, with the one exception being Chicago (Illinois used to be purple) which directly borders red Indiana which is where all their guns come from.


Why do all these blue cities in blue-ass states have such low homicide rates, even huge cities with gangs like LA and NYC?

2.5 San Diego
3.1 San Jose
3.2 Honolulu
3.4 New York
3.7 Seattle
3.7 Portland
4.7 Long Beach
6.3 Santa Ana
6.4 San Francisco
7.0 Los Angeles
8.4 Boston



Whereas you go to red states, and even the medium-sized cities can be dangerous as fukk. Yeah they have democrat mayors usually but the state governments are creating most of these conditions. Some of these homicide rates are TEN TIME higher than those blue state cities


66.1 St. Louis
39.8 Detroit
39.5 New Orleans
38.3 Baton Rouge
30.9 Kansas City
27.8 Cleveland
27.7 Memphis
23.4 Cincinnati
20.1 Mobile
17.9 Indianapolis
16.4 Atlanta
16.3 Nashville
15.9 Louisville
12.9 Des Moines

 

[Will Ross]

This. The ONLY thing that idiot ever posts are right-wing one-liner talking points. He can't even think through his arguments, he just drops more one-liners.

Cities are gonna be democrat-run regardless, but they can't control a lot of the gun and poverty and education measures where are set at the state level. If mayors had 100% control then White Flight never would have worked, but White people were able to move all the resources out of the cities and into the suburbs where they could control it for themselves.


There are always exceptions, no relationship is 100%, but generally if you look at the cities safely in blue states with no red states near the city, their homicide rates are lower. But if you look at the most violent cities, they're almost all in red or purple states with weak gun laws, with the one exception being Chicago (Illinois used to be purple) which directly borders red Indiana which is where all their guns come from.


Why do all these blue cities in blue-ass states have such low homicide rates, even huge cities with gangs like LA and NYC?

2.5 San Diego
3.1 San Jose
3.2 Honolulu
3.4 New York
3.7 Seattle
3.7 Portland
4.7 Long Beach
6.3 Santa Ana
6.4 San Francisco
7.0 Los Angeles
8.4 Boston



Whereas you go to red states, and even the medium-sized cities can be dangerous as fukk. Yeah they have democrat mayors usually but the state governments are creating most of these conditions. Some of these homicide rates are TEN TIME higher than those blue state cities


66.1 St. Louis
39.8 Detroit
39.5 New Orleans
38.3 Baton Rouge
30.9 Kansas City
27.8 Cleveland
27.7 Memphis
23.4 Cincinnati
20.1 Mobile
17.9 Indianapolis
16.4 Atlanta
16.3 Nashville
15.9 Louisville
12.9 Des Moines

You want the real answer white democrat failing black people. But you will blame republicans

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You want the real answer white democrat failing black people. But you will blame republicans

I said that you're only capable of posting right-wing one-liners, then gave a sound argument with receipts, and all you could reply with was a right-wing one-liner.






Most of those cities are run by BLACK people and they're stuck in states run by WHITE REPUBLICANS. So how the fukk can you blame white democrats for it when white democrats have no power at all in the city or state? A lot of those regions don't even have white democrats like that, dumbass. You're just trying to hit whatever TLR trigger-words you can so you don't have to admit that you're really blaming Black people for problems that White conservatives have caused.

 

[The Gentleman]

Democratic group points to "Red State Murder Problem" in push to turn tables on crime

• In Trump states, the rate was 8.20 murders per 100,000 residents.
• In Biden states, the rate was 5.78 murders per 100,000 residents.
• The six states with the highest per-capita murder rates all voted for President Trump in 2020 — as did 8 of the top 10.
  
  
  Bbbut New york, bbbut LA. "Dems are so bad at handling crime!"

Unfortunately that is the area of the country where most Black people live. The gun laws there are designed to keep nikkas in check.

 

[Will Ross]

I said that you're only capable of posting right-wing one-liners, then gave a sound argument with receipts, and all you could reply with was a right-wing one-liner.






Most of those cities are run by BLACK people and they're stuck in states run by WHITE REPUBLICANS. So how the fukk can you blame white democrats for it when white democrats have no power at all in the city or state? A lot of those regions don't even have white democrats like that, dumbass. You're just trying to hit whatever TLR trigger-words you can so you don't have to admit that you're really blaming Black people for problems that White conservatives have caused.

In the blue cities, you listed we make up a high % of the murder victims even though we make up a small % of the city's total population.
So like I said the democrat party has failed us.

 

[OfTheCross]

In the blue cities, you listed we make up a high % of the murder victims even though we make up a small % of the city's total population.
So like I said the democrat party has failed us.

Did it?

Did the Democratic party fail when less than 1% of the Black population of a city is commiting murder?

Who gets the credit for the 99% not killing people?

 

[CopiousX]

Democratic group points to "Red State Murder Problem" in push to turn tables on crime

• In Trump states, the rate was 8.20 murders per 100,000 residents.
• In Biden states, the rate was 5.78 murders per 100,000 residents.
• The six states with the highest per-capita murder rates all voted for President Trump in 2020 — as did 8 of the top 10.
  
  
  Bbbut New york, bbbut LA. "Dems are so bad at handling crime!"

This isn't a political thing tho. I recall during our mandatory psychology course back in undergrad that, culturally the south is more violent due to how men are acculturated to deal with conflict.


If I'm remembering correctly, it was something about northerners and west coasters being culturally prone to seek an authority figure at times of conflict, whereas southerners culturally deal with conflict themselves and do it immediately.

It's not even a genetic thing because they've done lab trails with southerners and northerners and seen that both parties react with the same hormones and biosignatures to being angry but only differ in how they choose to address the issue.





Even weirder is that I'm pretty sure this exact same map was in our old psych book. Context was different tho.