The Republican Party and Black Voters

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Its not the status quo, its the mere possibility of going back to Jim Crow, and the GOP forcing black to stay there for another 100 years. We gain nothing short term or long term.
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Anyone who believes we are in danger of returning to jim crow or slavery in 2022 is either completely out to lunch or has no clue about what Jim Crow actually was…

…and certainly can’t be reasoned with.

 

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You just admitted nothing democrats do can win your vote refardless of them offering tangibles or not.

If we take your direction there can't possibly be any long term gains.

Sounds like you have beef with specific political parties and policy isn't even your real concern.

:francis:

Who is your favorite republican politician?
:patrice:

In an effort to win the black vote back they would produce tangibles.
This and only this should win them the black vote.

What you are suggesting is that Dems truly don’t give a shyt about blacks and won’t do anything to win back the black voting block. So it pointless to leverage our vote.
This lends itself to my case for not supporting them.
 

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In an effort to win the black vote back they would produce tangibles.
This and only this should win them the black vote.
You already said you wouldn’t switch to voting for democrats EVEN IF they put forth tangibles.

you’re flipping your whole argument in circles now.

who’s your favorite republican politician?


:hubie:
Anyone who believes we are in danger of returning to jim crow or slavery in 2022 is either completely out to lunch or has no clue about what Jim Crow actually was…

…and certainly can’t be reasoned with.
What makes you think America “can’t” return to Jim Crow? What’s protecting us?
 

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You already said you wouldn’t switch to voting for democrats EVEN IF they put forth tangibles.
you’re flipping your whole argument in circles now.
who’s your favorite republican politician?
I'm conservative and vote conservative (notable exceptions being Obama's first term and Biden this last election).

:ehh:Deflecting from my leverage the black vote argument and making it about how i vote personally/which politician is my favorite is disappointing, because you are certainly aware im speaking about the black community as a whole... but this is TLR. So it is what it is.
 
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I'm conservative and vote conservative (notable exception being Obama's first term and Biden this last election).

:ehh:Deflecting from my leverage the black vote argument and making it about how i vote personally/which politician is my favorite is disappointing, because you are certainly aware im speaking about the black community as a whole... but this is TLR. So it is what it is.
I noted you ran your argument in circles, then asked who your favorite republican politician is...

Now you're running circles around providing an answer...

Your deflection methods are consistent at least... I give you that

:ehh:
 

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I noted you ran your argument in circles, then asked who your favorite republican politician is...

Now you're running circles around providing an answer...

Your deflection methods are consistent at least... I give you that

:ehh:
The thread isnt about me...:mjlol:
 

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:hubie:
Anyone who believes we are in danger of returning to jim crow or slavery in 2022 is either completely out to lunch or has no clue about what Jim Crow actually was…

…and certainly can’t be reasoned with.

Probably not, but I'm sure at least half of Republicans would vote to bring them back if they could do so anonymously :leostare:
 

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Giving all the power to Republicans and hoping that will motivate Democrats is not logical. By not voting, it does punish democrats (which is the goal), but it also gives power to Republicans. Question is, do we believe that Republicans will give up all the power again once they have it? We saw what levels they went to in order to prevent Trump from losing. Since then, we see how Republican states are passing laws making it harder to vote, closing voting locations/different ways to vote, outlandish gerrymandering, having people run for office who indicate they would be willing to surpress/toss votes if they don't like the results, and they've already placed a high number of young conservative judges who will back them up in court. So while we "weather the storm" of Republicans controlling everything, how do we plan on getting power back, when they will place so many hurdles in the way for that to happen. All of those hurdles I've mentioned would have increased tenfold with another 4 to 8 years of Republican controlling all branches of federal, state, and local governments. We could possibly overcome them, but their goal is to slowly chip away and discourage people from climbing over those hurdles. And it is working.
 

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Question is, do we believe that Republicans will give up all the power again once they have it?
No one "gives up all the power".
It's taken.

I remember this being said about Trump after the election, "will he leave the white house, will he give up the oval office"... and here we are.
Don't fall for the fear mongering.
Leveraging
our vote isn't as dangerous as the "back in chains" crowd is claiming.
 

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No one "gives up all the power".
It's taken.

I remember this being said about Trump after the election, "will he leave the white house, will he give up the oval office"... and here we are.
Don't fall for the fear mongering.
Leveraging
our vote isn't as dangerous as the "back in chains" crowd is claiming.
The problem with holding back your vote is that theres no guarantee it will be there next time.

Across the country Republicans are trying to take away the right to vote, especially for black and hispanic people. There are constantly court cases over it, and sometimes the judge blocks the voter suppression, and sometimes they dont.
So if every black person sits out an election, only a portion of us will be able to vote next time.
Sitting out is not an option in the current system.
 

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Who has loss the right to vote? :ld:Serious question.
Are you fear mongering or ? link?
Down here in Alabama it’s more of a problem that they are requiring IDs but we have 67 counties and most are rural, so they are closing a lot of the license places in the rural counties, thus making it harder for voices to be heard. Not too mention all the black people disenfranchised by draconian felony laws that take away their right to vote.
 

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