The RZA Explains Why He Didn't Let Wu-Tang Clan Work With Outside Producers During Early Run

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I'm almost 100% sure Wu Gambinos hidden chamber is still RZA - sounds very Wu elements if not

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I'm sure Hidden Chambers is RZA as well. It's the same melody as Gravel Pit in a slightly different pitch. That was the first thing I noticed first time I heard Gravel Pit
 

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I get it but it don't hurt to deversify. For my solo record I would want to go outside of Rza's production to diversify if I was them. I wouldn't want to sound like just another Wu Tang project.

That was a move smart for him though. He made some of his best shyt during that time and fell off as time went on. Better tomorrow is proof he isn't the same producer.
This is insanity until 97, RZA was churning out classics left and right. The flood burnout, and a bit of greed (going away from samples) are probably why Forever sounds like it does and they don't all have most or all RZA albums. The second half of the Clan could have had prime RZA albums. What could have been:mjcry:
 

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This is insanity until 97, RZA was churning out classics left and right. The flood burnout, and a bit of greed (going away from samples) are probably why Forever sounds like it does and they don't all have most or all RZA albums. The second half of the Clan could have had prime RZA albums. What could have been:mjcry:
Yeah that flood really messed shyt up, good points.

I wonder how dude just lost his skills overtime like that. His beats used to be raw asf.
 

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Yeah that flood really messed shyt up, good points.

I wonder how dude just lost his skills overtime like that. His beats used to be raw asf.
IMHO, it's learning theory and composition to do films and to stop sampling. He's rich and in Hollywood, so he doesn't need to think about making any raw beats until it's time for a Wu album, then it's problems.

I've seen other dope beatmakers try to learn music theory and their beats suffer. You start thinking about what's "right" instead of what sounds good. I never made beats seriously, but I refuse to learn that shyt, it almost always turns out bad.
 

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IMHO, it's learning theory and composition to do films and to stop sampling. He's rich and in Hollywood, so he doesn't need to think about making any raw beats until it's time for a Wu album, then it's problems.

I've seen other dope beatmakers try to learn music theory and their beats suffer. You start thinking about what's "right" instead of what sounds good. I never made beats seriously, but I refuse to learn that shyt, it almost always turns out bad.
It reminds me of MCs that talk later on in their career about how they are a much better MC because they know how to better structure their bars and know how to make better songs. Always coincides with that MC not being near as good as when they first came out and were more raw with it. Hip hop is at it's best raw and a little sloppy.
 
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