The Second Apron is ruining the NBA

[2legit]

I'm sick and tired of the Second Apron already. Why is every conversation in the NBA nowadays need to use the word Second Apron? I've heard more people say Second Apron in the last month than say SGA's name. The focus and conversation should be on players and the Free Agency/Trade speculation instead of teams having to conform to the Aprons. I feel like I need to be a Lawyer and Accountant these days to understand all of the NBA's convoluted rules about the salary cap and exceptions.

I don't like how the Second Apron is ruining all of the good teams. The Nuggets were tired in the playoffs and should have had KCP there to battle with OKC. Boston built a team the right way and their reward is getting rid of Porzingis and Jrue. The NBA is messing with a good team. Could you imagine if in the 80's, the Lakers had to trade James Worthy because of the Second Apron? Then had to get rid of Byron Scott too because it would cost too much? The game would have been worse. If the Celtics had to get rid of Kevin McHale and Danny Ainge, they wouldn't be a dynasty and the NBA would have never grown to the heights that it is today.

 

[NotAHotep]

Y'all wanted parity and no superteams. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[the cool]

3rd apron otw

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Y'all wanted parity and no superteams. Be careful what you wish for.

I think most the complaints people had were superteams forming thru FA, seems they wanted teams to focus on building thru the draft/homegrown talent and making competitive teams. Seems the 2nd apron is punishing that. This is on the owners trying to save money, not fans. Idk how they let the low tier/trash orgs push this through. Most of them either lacked foresight(doubtful) or they just saw the money that would be saved(most likely). Most who voted for it probably thought "we not gonna ever have a team good enough to worry about that, but we gonna save a lot".

 

[FTBS]

Just the latest thing the owners have done to take pressure off themselves to actually compete.

 

[FTBS]

Y'all wanted parity and no superteams. Be careful what you wish for.

People never cared about parity or had a problem with superteams. They had a problem with the superteams (more specifically the players) that were running shyt.

 

[concise]

3rd apron otw

 

[42 Monks]

I actually love what the NBA is doing the marketing needs to catch up with things because the whole point was to spread talent around.

I think most the complaints people had were superteams forming thru FA, seems they wanted teams to focus on building thru the draft/homegrown talent and making competitive teams. Seems the 2nd apron is punishing that.

the only thing the second apron is punishing is dumbass GMs

denver was ran goofy as hell for years
boston was cutting checks that would've had them restructuring with or without the apron
minnesota went out of its way to create the rudy/kat decision point
clips have been mortgaging their future without a deep playoff run to show for it constantly
phoenix was dumb as fukk to even get into the situation they're in
etc

its got nothing to do with injuries or teams going all in long before they should be

 

[Harry B]

Cause it’s almost as important as a real/hard salary cap, so in the nba it just means salary cap. So you’ll hear it as much as you hear cap space/salary cap in the nfl, that’s my interpretation at least

 

[FaTaL]

Y’all wanted to fuk over the warriors, it’s fuking yall instead

Denver
Boston

Whose next?

 

[holidayinn21]

Y'all wanted parity and no superteams. Be careful what you wish for.

Of course the first reply is this loud, lazy, and incorrect statement

 

[Hathaway]

I'm out the loop. Here's for the other people who are also out the loop:
The second apron is a financial threshold that triggers additional penalties for teams that spend above it. It's the final spending limit before teams face severe penalties that can affect their ability to compete. The second apron was introduced in the NBA's 2023-24 collective bargaining agreement (CBA) to make penalties more severe for teams that spend much more than the luxury tax. The goal is to reduce the gap between big-spending teams and small-market teams when it comes to roster building.

 

[pete clemenza]

I'm sick and tired of the Second Apron already. Why is every conversation in the NBA nowadays need to use the word Second Apron? I've heard more people say Second Apron in the last month than say SGA's name. The focus and conversation should be on players and the Free Agency/Trade speculation instead of teams having to conform to the Aprons. I feel like I need to be a Lawyer and Accountant these days to understand all of the NBA's convoluted rules about the salary cap and exceptions.

I don't like how the Second Apron is ruining all of the good teams. The Nuggets were tired in the playoffs and should have had KCP there to battle with OKC. Boston built a team the right way and their reward is getting rid of Porzingis and Jrue. The NBA is messing with a good team. Could you imagine if in the 80's, the Lakers had to trade James Worthy because of the Second Apron? Then had to get rid of Byron Scott too because it would cost too much? The game would have been worse. If the Celtics had to get rid of Kevin McHale and Danny Ainge, they wouldn't be a dynasty and the NBA would have never grown to the heights that it is today.

This is you answer right here in a sense. The league definitely exploded with Magic vs Bird and later Jordan, but the league also took care of LA and Boston and NBC rode Jordan and the Bulls to extraordinary heights. No restrictive CBA was going to be implemented to screw all that up. My main opinion is that once Bron, Curry, KD, Harden, Kyrie, etc. hang it up the league will be void of superstars so now the pivot is to usher in parity and an even playing surface.

No more team ups, no more Big 3's, these new kids could care less about teaming up for a ring, Euro stars want to stay with the team that drafted them no matter how bad they are, the guys that had next up - Zion, Ant, Ja's have off court issues, WembyMania not taking off. Plus all stars worth a damn are under max contracts with their current team and it takes a trade to acquire a star these days. The unrestricted superstar free agent is damn near a myth and unicorn in this new NBA. The talk of a certain small market teams not being a free agent destination is wiped away cause the majority of free agents now are just good role players. The stars are locked up under max contracts.

I get folks not liking this new CBA and its aprons, but its a different economy, a different landscape. You not maximizing potential and profits if the league is only about 4-5 cities. The old former CBA works if you have superstars galore wanting to move around and chase rings. With social media in play, you can become a star in any city if you ball out. NYC and LA takes half your paycheck anyway. Even if we do go back to the old CBA, do these youngsters hang out with each other? Would Ant want to team up with Cade in Detroit? Zion has yet to play a playoff game. These new dudes just want their bread, play video games, and pull IG hoes. "Ring culture" is whatever to them.

 

[SchoolboyC]

The second apron exists bc the other owners were pissed bc the Warriors & to a lesser extent Clippers were the eating the repeater tax penalties they put into the last CBA, and when the Warriors won the title again in ‘22 that was the last straw

 

[pete clemenza]

Y'all wanted parity and no superteams. Be careful what you wish for.

The superteam culprits are on the verge of retiring. These new kids don't hang out with each other. They could care less about chasing rings and teaming up. They don't even want to be stars. Parity was coming regardless.