The Self Destruction of TNA

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:manny: even during the good years it still felt bush league and had stupid shyt going on then. like I randomly ran across some dude named REDRUM on there going against Raven in 2007 I think..one of the worst matches I've ever seen.

now lets be fair, and acknowledge all the bad gimmicks in the wwe as well.

the wwe is theh king of bad gimmicks. so if TNA is bush league because of that, then what does that make the wwe?

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yeah, they werent original WWF guys, BUT they came there when they were young. Feds have always swapped talent back and forth. Hall & Nash were originally WCW guys too, but they made their names while they were still young in WWF. Theres a difference between that and going somewhere after your over the hill.

And there's not ONE TNA match w/ Angle you can point me to that was better than his match with Benoit at RR 02, or better than his match with Brock at WM 19, or better than the cage match him and Benoit had on RAW.

You always go thru dark periods when trying to build ur own talent. IT happened in the mid 90's, but look what happened right after w/ the Attitude era.[DOUBLEPOST=1397522695][/DOUBLEPOST]

you mean let them appear in WWE and have a non-important role like Flair, Hogan currently, vs let them appear in TNA and be main eventing fighting/defeating talent 30 years younger.

- the attitude era? dog, half of the attitude era was piss-poor wrestling that benefited from good booking & the shock tv/jerry springer era. it wasnt because of the talent that they "developed". chit didnt become a good wrestling product until '99-00 when all those wcw cats jumped ship & they raided ecw's roster. oh and '97 was pretty cool, but barely any of those guys were wwf stars.

- i stopped watching TNA regularly not long after the hogan regime took over so im not gonna speak on what flair & hogan were doing until i brush up on it. but whenever i checked TNA out, they were moreso on-air personalities, rather than wrestlers.

- either way, lets not act like they werent prominent IN-RING wrestlers in the wwe YEAR & YEARS after their prime. with flair looking like mr burns and hogan hobbling around with his grandpa hip. and nobody complained then. yet people complained when they were in wcw 10 years EARLIER, as if they found the fountain of youth a decade later in the wwe. i mean, lets be all the way real here; i liked rock/hogan just as much as the next guy, but if that match happened at starrcade, it would be chitted on to no end.

- most of those guys youre referring to, werent exactly young when they came to the wwf either. and most of them had more years under their belts than kurt angle did when he went to TNA.:whistle: especially scott hall who got known like a decade before he went to the wwf.

- yes talent was swapped regularly. no joke. the problem is, the wwf isnt held to the same standards as the others. to this day, they get away with trotting old wrestlers around in prominent roles, can sign established stars from other promotions without being told that *insert wrestler* is a wcw star, etc etc.

- angle matches? the benoit stuff might be his best. that may be arguable. he definitely has better matches in TNA than that lesnar wm19 joint. cmon now doggie.:laugh: and we can go match for match, and see that his TNA catalog is stronger.
 
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i'll say this tho.

when hogan & bishoff came thru, they ruined the whole chit instantly.

and they pushed alot of older and/or outside wrestlers that had no business being pushed. in that respect, i can agree with @jadillac. but i cant rock with his overall message.

but chit, the reason they added so many of those wrestlers is because most of the so-called wrestling fans that complain about it are the same ones that werent watching UNTIL they brought all those wrestlers in. a bunch of faux criticism is what it really is. people can say this & that, but they werent supporting the product beforehand.
 

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Storm vs Roode was amazing feud but they never gave the fukking belt to storm. Roode is an A+ talent though. You nikkas would dikkride him if he wasi n WWE :mjpls:

Abyss was fire too, but he became a joke later. His manager was dope on the mic too, they fired him for no reason though.

Samoa Joe always looked like a fat loser to me, this dude was fast as shyt, but was fat as fukk made no sense :mjlol:



The bigggest dissapointment I had though was Alex Shelley, that was 100% a star in the making and they couldnt see it at all. Years later that bland fakkit Sabin got the title. Easily the WOAT wrestler ever. You think Randy orton is bad Sabin is Randy Orton multiplied by 100 :laff:

Austin Aries was fire too, they gave him that one gimmick with the feathers on him and shyt. His swag was crazy, but he was clearly an idiot he said he aint even like the gimmick and left :russ:
 

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So all the interviews with Angle i read he said he left WWE because Vince wouldn't give him time off from the road. Vince would agree to time off and then he would get his schedule the next week and his road dates would look the same. Vince was known for working guys to the breaking point. I think his body was breaking down and the drug use was bad. Going to TNA gave him a only a few dates per month. So i think it was a good move for him.

Those 80s WWF stars were all polished vets when they arrived. Hall, Macho, Perfect, Jake, etc all knew how to work and cut promos when they got there. Only thing Vince was good at was giving them a good gimmick to make them stand out. I think you guys are discrediting the territories back in the 80s.

TNA had a shot at one point. Their big problem was bringing in WWE talent and pushing them over their homegrown stars. It was the same stupid shyt WCW did. :snoop:
 

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The bigggest dissapointment I had though was Alex Shelley, that was 100% a star in the making and they couldnt see it at all. Years later that bland fakkit Sabin got the title. Easily the WOAT wrestler ever. You think Randy orton is bad Sabin is Randy Orton multiplied by 100 :laff:

Austin Aries was fire too, they gave him that one gimmick with the feathers on him and shyt. His swag was crazy, but he was clearly an idiot he said he aint even like the gimmick and left :russ:

sabin can work his ass off tho.

meh. aries was smart for leaving & coming back. that gimmick wouldve hindered him.

So all the interviews with Angle i read he said he left WWE because Vince wouldn't give him time off from the road. Vince would agree to time off and then he would get his schedule the next week and his road dates would look the same. Vince was known for working guys to the breaking point. I think his body was breaking down and the drug use was bad. Going to TNA gave him a only a few dates per month. So i think it was a good move for him.

Those 80s WWF stars were all polished vets when they arrived. Hall, Macho, Perfect, Jake, etc all knew how to work and cut promos when they got there. Only thing Vince was good at was giving them a good gimmick to make them stand out. I think you guys are discrediting the territories back in the 80s.

TNA had a shot at one point. Their big problem was bringing in WWE talent and pushing them over their homegrown stars. It was the same stupid shyt WCW did. :snoop:

great post.

only thing i disagree with is the wcw comment. wcw over-pushed wcw talent that one year to bring over the casuals. them pushing wwf talent is overstated. not to mention that alot of them were really their stars in the 1st place, but thats besides the point.
 

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Hello everyone this is Chief of Staff of Impact Wrestling Rockstar Spud I hope that everyone is enjoying our new episode tonight especially since my match will be featured. Also has everyone heard the great news I have resigned my contract with Impact Wrestling and I will be around for many many years to come
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I gave up on wanting TNA to succeed long ago. The company has been an abortion for about four years now, its unbearable. When they go out of business, their legacy will not be a pretty one. Dixie Carter is one hell of a c*nt.
 
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