The Self Destruction of TNA

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Define "great", because in the context of the wrestling business, I see great talent as talent that you can rely on to further your business by getting not just themselves, but the people they're around over, an no one in the bolded had the ability or the desire to get anyone over. Those dudes were there to cash checks. Point blank. If Jeff was more reliable, I'd actually take him off that list, as he was the only one who even made an effort to expand his deal, and not just cobble together a collection of his greatest soundbites an moments and regurgitate them four times a month. Jeff actually busted his as in TNA on occassion.

"Great" talent isn't visibly half-assing every time they're on camera. In 2005/6, TNA was in the right direction in becoming a true alternative. Not a competitor, but an alternative. But they bailed out on their own future time and time again.

Those were/are great talents that people were legit interested in TNA and they popped their highest rating going head to head with Raw. They just couldn't capitalize on it.

You can't blame the talent for taking advantage of the situation to their advantage. That falls on the head honcho(dixie). She promised every one title runs, & big paydays to the detriment of her current/homegrown talent.

Like kevin nash said why would you walk away from an ATM shooting out hundred dollar bills.
 

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I'm a firm believer that you cannot build a legit, long-lasting company on the backs of over-the-hill big names from another fed. It's the reason I never rocked with WCW in the mid-late 90's even tho they were winning the ratings war. It just didnt intrigue me to see Macho, Hogan, Perfect and everyone else past their primes.

It might work for a little bit, but you MUST BUILD YOUR OWN STARS and have them be the main focus. Not a broken down Kurt Angle, not a 50+ year old Sting, not an almost 60 year old Hogan & not a 60+ year old Flair.

These guys sucked the company dry financially and wasted time/money they could've been promoting new talent.

You can build a long lasting fed with old names, but only on 3-6 month programs. No title guarantees but to help put over young talent. That's when you have to put your foot down, and treat them like disposable assets. It's the Vince mind where the business always come first, agree-disagree but you own the company. You are responsible for putting food in familys mouth of production crew and not the wrestlers.

They don't like the deal, tough shyt.
 

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Those were/are great talents that people were legit interested in TNA and they popped their highest rating going head to head with Raw. They just couldn't capitalize on it.

You can't blame the talent for taking advantage of the situation to their advantage. That falls on the head honcho(dixie). She promised every one title runs, & big paydays to the detriment of her current/homegrown talent.

Like kevin nash said why would you walk away from an ATM shooting out hundred dollar bills.
Which as I said, is where the problem started. Those dudes signed up to cash checks. They didn't come in to build a company. That makes them bad talents that should have never been around in the first place. Every one of those signs was a short-sighted ratings grab. Dudes like Christian, Jeff, and Kurt you absolutely don't pass on. They were performers near or in their prime hungry to prove something. Really, what tthe fuk is Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Scott Steiner so on and so forth really going to do for you ten years after they were already washed up? Get a couple clicks for nostalgias worth then people are going to move the hell on.
 

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Which as I said, is where the problem started. Those dudes signed up to cash checks. They didn't come in to build a company. That makes them bad talents that should have never been around in the first place. Every one of those signs was a short-sighted ratings grab. Dudes like Christian, Jeff, and Kurt you absolutely don't pass on. They were performers near or in their prime hungry to prove something. Really, what tthe fuk is Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Scott Steiner so on and so forth really going to do for you ten years after they were already washed up? Get a couple clicks for nostalgias worth then people are going to move the hell on.

Ric flair is a still a great talker that would be great in an authority or manager role.

Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan. The GOAT. Hulk Hogan had opened up many doors for TNA with their TV deals and company marketing.
(Not worth 35k per appearance however)

And Scott Steiner was a Great addition to the TNA roster during his original run and he helped legitimize Samoa Joe.

Everybody comes in to cash checks, thats with any job.
 

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you want me to "go away" so that you can revel in ignorance. the funny thing is that youre always following me around, despite the fact that i rarely ever respond to you.

angle was hurt and addicted to pills when he was in the WWE and he wouldve DIED if he stayed there.TNA actually saved & rejuvenated him. gave him a lighter schedule and better opponents who didnt bang him up in the ring since they actually knew what they were doing.

btw, i remember benoit was rumored to jump ship as well but signed a wwe extension.

I respond because I have to constantly correct you. You are a arrogant a$$hole who pops up every six months trying lord everyone with knowledge and facts thats completely inaccurate. Angle wouldn't have died if he was in WWE. The whole reason he left was because he refuse to take time off for rehab. Oh, a problem hes still battling btw. LOL@ working with ppl who actually know what they are doing. You really think guys like Samoa Joe, one of the stiffest workers around, is safe? Or still doing moonsaults with his neck and knee problems? Like I said, go away.
 

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I respond because I have to constantly correct you. You are a arrogant @sshole who pops up every six months trying lord everyone with knowledge and facts thats completely inaccurate. Angle wouldn't have died if he was in WWE. The whole reason he left was because he refuse to take time off for rehab. Oh, a problem hes still battling btw. LOL@ working with ppl who actually know what they are doing. You really think guys like Samoa Joe, one of the stiffest workers around, is safe? Or still doing moonsaults with his neck and knee problems? Like I said, go away.

lol. going to rehab dont mean chit, if you go right back out to the same exact chit. dikkhead.

you dont correct me on anything. you follow me around in threads where you clearly dont even know your right from left. at least you were at least warranted a response in this thread.[DOUBLEPOST=1397508856][/DOUBLEPOST]
Ric flair is a still a great talker that would be great in an authority or manager role.

Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan. The GOAT. Hulk Hogan had opened up many doors for TNA with their TV deals and company marketing.
(Not worth 35k per appearance however)

And Scott Steiner was a Great addition to the TNA roster during his original run and he helped legitimize Samoa Joe.

Everybody comes in to cash checks, thats with any job.

whats funny is, these dudes can appear in the wwe when theyre 75, and these dudes will go nuts.

but let them appear in any other promotion and its a whole different story.
 

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I respond because I have to constantly correct you. You are a arrogant @sshole who pops up every six months trying lord everyone with knowledge and facts thats completely inaccurate. Angle wouldn't have died if he was in WWE. The whole reason he left was because he refuse to take time off for rehab. Oh, a problem hes still battling btw. LOL@ working with ppl who actually know what they are doing. You really think guys like Samoa Joe, one of the stiffest workers around, is safe? Or still doing moonsaults with his neck and knee problems? Like I said, go away.

Couple of posts in tsc and he is already in the WOAT posters list. :wow:
 

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lol. going to rehab dont mean chit, if you go right back out to the same exact chit. dikkhead.

you dont correct me on anything. you follow me around in threads where you clearly dont even know your right from left. at least you were at least warranted a response in this thread.[DOUBLEPOST=1397508856][/DOUBLEPOST]

whats funny is, these dudes can appear in the wwe when theyre 75, and these dudes will go nuts.

but let them appear in any other promotion and its a whole different story.

What the hell does this post even mean? :mindblown:
 

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lol. going to rehab dont mean chit, if you go right back out to the same exact chit. dikkhead.

you dont correct me on anything. you follow me around in threads where you clearly dont even know your right from left. at least you were at least warranted a response in this thread.[DOUBLEPOST=1397508856][/DOUBLEPOST]

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clearly, going to rehab would be worse than popping pills and wrestling while injured in tna :why:
 

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Couple of posts in tsc and he is already in the WOAT posters list. :wow:

Yea I guess since Warrior passed, he decided to pulled himself from his top ten R&B box videos of Oct 93 thread and school us "WWF fanboys." Dudes like him are the worst kind of smart fans. And notice how they all use the same argument when you challenge them. "Stop following me. You lucky I respond." These dudes are so narcissistic they actually believe they matter on a internet forum.
 

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man go get some pu$$y.

PLEASE. HURRY.[DOUBLEPOST=1397509416][/DOUBLEPOST]


are you serious?

Yes. How can you predict someone's behavior if they don't go to the rehab in the first place? He just now went after what 8 years in TNA?[DOUBLEPOST=1397509945][/DOUBLEPOST]TNA is so similar to WCW tho is eerie. They have a few good years 04-05, end of 09. But they majority of their history is not good
 
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