The Self Destruction of TNA

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Did this fool really say Angle's TNA run was better than his WWE run? :mjlol:

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Ric flair is a still a great talker that would be great in an authority or manager role.

Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan. The GOAT. Hulk Hogan had opened up many doors for TNA with their TV deals and company marketing.
(Not worth 35k per appearance however)

And Scott Steiner was a Great addition to the TNA roster during his original run and he helped legitimize Samoa Joe.

Everybody comes in to cash checks, thats with any job.

Then TNA wasted all that work and took it away with their :dahell: booking.
 

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Which as I said, is where the problem started. Those dudes signed up to cash checks. They didn't come in to build a company. That makes them bad talents that should have never been around in the first place. Every one of those signs was a short-sighted ratings grab. Dudes like Christian, Jeff, and Kurt you absolutely don't pass on. They were performers near or in their prime hungry to prove something. Really, what tthe fuk is Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Scott Steiner so on and so forth really going to do for you ten years after they were already washed up? Get a couple clicks for nostalgias worth then people are going to move the hell on.

dog, you know how many people on this very board didnt pay any attention to TNA until the hogan regime came thru? all those acquisitions were big for the company. the problem came when hogan & bishoff blatantly alienated the core audience and catered the product to a bunch of wwe fanboys who didnt even want to see TNA succeed.

of course its about cashing checks. ITS A JOB. if wrestlers cared about building a company, then ecw wouldnt have went out of business, roh would be a powerhouse, etc etc etc.
 
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Yea I guess since Warrior passed, he decided to pulled himself from his top ten R&B box videos of Oct 93 thread and school us "WWF fanboys." Dudes like him are the worst kind of smart fans. And notice how they all use the same argument when you challenge them. "Stop following me. You lucky I respond." These dudes are so narcissistic they actually believe they matter on a internet forum.

or maybe people tell you to stop following them BECAUSE YOU FOLLOW THEM around, and usually posting stupid chit in the process.

youve been following me around since you were in that thread on friday/saturday, talking out ya ass about some chit that you knew you didnt know much about. and your pride mustve got hurt(LOL).

and you claim that i dont matter, yet you sure seem to have me profiled on multiple forums. on the flipside, i cant think of anything you post here aside from the fact that you like to fill up my alert box with posts that i usually dont even read, and when i do read them, you sound ignant as f*ck 90% of the time.
 

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a broke-down kurt angle?:laff: kurt angle was in his prime when he went to TNA, and his TNA run is better than his WWE run.

and lets be reality. the wwf is the main promotion that strived off of other promotion's stars. macho, hogan, perfect. none of those guys you named were the wwf's stars to begin with. and if they stayed in the wwf, yall wouldnt have been calling them "over-the-hill".

not coming at your neck, but this train-of-thought is a result of those billionaire ted skits that the wwf brain-trained the masses with.

theres a reason why the wwe dark-age period that we're just now coming out of was so bad. it sucked because they tried to develop mostly their own talent. it took a bunch of ROH cats to swoop in an save the quality of the product
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I agree with this part, but macho man and perfect or anybody that you are thinking of that didnt originally come from wwf would have been major stars without vince, those dudes were nobodies before those characters were given to them. I heard somewhere that perfect almost was given the red rooster gimmick if Terry Taylor had not passed up on the mr. perfect gimmick.
 

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or maybe people tell you to stop following them BECAUSE YOU FOLLOW THEM around, and usually posting stupid chit in the process.

youve been following me around since you were in that thread on friday/saturday, talking out ya ass about some chit that you knew you didnt know much about. and your pride mustve got hurt(LOL).

and you claim that i dont matter, yet you sure seem to have me profiled on multiple forums. on the flipside, i cant think of anything you post here aside from the fact that you like to fill up my alert box with posts that i usually dont even read, and when i do read them, you sound ignant as f*ck 90% of the time.

Dude, you sound like a fukking snitch ass 2nd grader right now. "stop following me. Leave me alone. I dont know you." Man up. I respond to any and everyone in here the same. No one is going through your profile stalking your post. I keep it one the subject matter while you go one little girl tangents. You don't like it? Ignore me or go away.
 

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I agree with this part, but macho man and perfect or anybody that you are thinking of that didnt originally come from wwf would have been major stars without vince, those dudes were nobodies before those characters were given to them. I heard somewhere that perfect almost was given the red rooster gimmick if Terry Taylor had not passed up on the mr. perfect gimmick.

macho man randy savage was already the macho man randy savage.

curt hennig was already a world champ before he got to the wwf. the mr perfect gimmick made him more of a known name with casual & non-wrestling fans. thats about it.

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Dude, you sound like a fukking snitch ass 2nd grader right now. "stop following me. Leave me alone. I dont know you." Man up. I respond to any and everyone in here the same. No one is going through your profile stalking your post. I keep it one the subject matter while you go one little girl tangents. You don't like it? Ignore me or go away.

take your own advice.

btw, i actually do ignore you 90% of the time.
 
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macho man randy savage was already the macho man randy savage.

curt hennig was already a world champ before he got to the wwf. the mr perfect gimmick made him more of a star with casual fans. thats about it.[DOUBLEPOST=1397518387][/DOUBLEPOST]

take your own advice.

btw, i actually do ignore you 90% of the time.
without the wwe those dudes would not have mattered, I mean look at sting, people constantly disrespect him on here just becaused he never made it to the wwe, and he was nwa/wcw biggest star
 

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macho man randy savage was already the macho man randy savage.

curt hennig was already a world champ before he got to the wwf. the mr perfect gimmick made him more of a known name with casual & non-wrestling fans. thats about it.

[DOUBLEPOST=1397518387][/DOUBLEPOST]

take your own advice.

btw, i actually do ignore you 90% of the time.

No, because no one can ever get me that upset with a message board. And if someone challenges me on a post, I respond like a man. Not like a schoolgirl. I notice you haven't even bothered to refute my Angle post after that false shyt you said. Because you have nothing. And thats why you ignore my post.
 

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without the wwe those dudes would not have mattered, I mean look at sting, people constantly disrespect him on here just becaused he never made it to the wwe, and he was nwa/wcw biggest star

thats neither here nor there.

the only people on here disrespecting sting are wwe fanboys/noobs who werent even around.

whats funny is, i know mad people that hate wrestling that know about sting. both versions.[DOUBLEPOST=1397518910][/DOUBLEPOST]
No, because no one can ever get me that upset with a message board. And if someone challenges me on a post, I respond like a man. Not like a schoolgirl. I notice you haven't even bothered to refute my Angle post after that false shyt you said. Because you have nothing. And thats why you ignore my post.

i stopped reading your angle posts after you asked that stupid ass question.

and yes, you are mad. droppin f-bombs and stuff. get a life.
 

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thats neither here nor there.

the only people on here disrespecting sting are wwe fanboys/noobs who werent even around.

whats funny is, i know mad people that hate wrestling that know about sting. both versions.[DOUBLEPOST=1397518910][/DOUBLEPOST]

i stopped reading your angle posts after you asked that stupid ass question.

and yes, you are mad. droppin f-bombs and stuff. get a life.

Asked what stupid question? And I thought you stopped reading my post? Lets get back on topic. How is Angles life better in TNA?
 

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a broke-down kurt angle?:laff: kurt angle was in his prime when he went to TNA, and his TNA run is better than his WWE run.

and lets be reality. the wwf is the main promotion that strived off of other promotion's stars. macho, hogan, perfect. none of those guys you named were the wwf's stars to begin with. and if they stayed in the wwf, yall wouldnt have been calling them "over-the-hill".

not coming at your neck, but this train-of-thought is a result of those billionaire ted skits that the wwf brain-trained the masses with.

theres a reason why the wwe dark-age period that we're just now coming out of was so bad. it sucked because they tried to develop mostly their own talent. it took a bunch of ROH cats to swoop in an save the quality of the product.
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yeah, they werent original WWF guys, BUT they came there when they were young. Feds have always swapped talent back and forth. Hall & Nash were originally WCW guys too, but they made their names while they were still young in WWF. Theres a difference between that and going somewhere after your over the hill.

And there's not ONE TNA match w/ Angle you can point me to that was better than his match with Benoit at RR 02, or better than his match with Brock at WM 19, or better than the cage match him and Benoit had on RAW.

You always go thru dark periods when trying to build ur own talent. IT happened in the mid 90's, but look what happened right after w/ the Attitude era.[DOUBLEPOST=1397522695][/DOUBLEPOST]
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whats funny is, these dudes can appear in the wwe when theyre 75, and these dudes will go nuts.

but let them appear in any other promotion and its a whole different story.

you mean let them appear in WWE and have a non-important role like Flair, Hogan currently, vs let them appear in TNA and be main eventing fighting/defeating talent 30 years younger.
 

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:manny: even during the good years it still felt bush league and had stupid shyt going on then. like I randomly ran across some dude named REDRUM on there going against Raven in 2007 I think..one of the worst matches I've ever seen.
 

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:manny: even during the good years it still felt bush league and had stupid shyt going on then. like I randomly ran across some dude named REDRUM on there going against Raven in 2007 I think..one of the worst matches I've ever seen.
:whoa: That was after russo came aboard
 
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