The Shrinking PH. D job influence (Article)

[DrBanneker]

I wouldn't recommend a PhD in the Humanities. I know a woman who recently got her PhD from Princeton in a humanity and has yet to land a job. I have another friend with a PhD in a humanity from Northwestern (IL) and is working as an instructor (non-tenure track position). The latter one discouraged me from pursuing a PhD in History.

True. When the number of college professorships was expanding, you could easily become a assistant prof at a school in one of the humanities departments but unfortunately, despite the good education you might get, humanities is one of the least marketable doctorates.

 

[theworldismine13]

We're not least educated demographic. Hispanics are. However, they work and own businesses and they don't stress education like others.

It just depends on how you measure it, sometimes native Americans come at the bottom even

Hispanics is a complex category

But we come out near the bottom if not the actual bottom

But either way there is no college bubble happening in the black community, far from it

 

[Wild self]

It just depends on how you measure it, sometimes native Americans come at the bottom even

Hispanics is a complex category

But we come out near the bottom if not the actual bottom

But either way there is no college bubble happening in the black community, far from it

When the bubble bursts and these institutions close down, or worse, these administrations start getting locked up on some Bernie Madoff shyt, is when my words start to make sense.

 

[theworldismine13]

When the bubble bursts and these institutions close down, or worse, these administrations start getting locked up on some Bernie Madoff shyt, is when my words start to make sense.

what you are saying is irrelevant to the issues black people are facing

 

[Wild self]

what you are saying is irrelevant to the issues black people are facing

I am not preaching to be anti intellectual, just that the price range of colleges is far too high.

 

[Cynic]

Another dumb thread trying to discourage black people, the least educated demographic group, and in turn least amount of PhDs, from pursuing Ph.Ds

Black people shouldn't be aspiring to be Humanities PHDs


STEM >>>>>>>>>

 

[theworldismine13]

I am not preaching to be anti intellectual, just that the price range of colleges is far too high.

I agree that the price is to high, and people need to start looking for bargains

But black people are one of the lest educated demographic groups in the country, so the price is simply another hurdle that black have to figure out and the whole college bubble theory is irrelevant to black people

If black people had to many college graduates that would be an improvement to our situation and a better problem to have

 

[theworldismine13]

Black people shouldn't be aspiring to be Humanities PHDs


STEM >>>>>>>>>

well people should consider carefully what they want to study, people should be fully aware of their job prospects in the field they are studying in, that is all i would say

im not into telling people what they should study, you may end up stifling creativity

 

[Cynic]

well people should consider carefully what they want to study, people should be fully aware of their job prospects in the field they are studying in, that is all i would say

im not into telling people what they should study, you may end up stifling creativity

STEM and high finance are the best paying fields. We are also underrepresented in those industries due to sh!tty schools and sh!tty choices

So why wouldn't you want to ammend that ?

 

[theworldismine13]

STEM and high finance are the best paying fields. We are also underrepresented in those industries due to sh!tty schools and sh!tty choices

So why wouldn't you want to ammend that ?

what you are stating is factually correct, i think people should consider those facts when choosing what to study

but i wouldn't cross the line into telling people what they should study, i wouldn't want to stifle intellectual curiosity and creativity

 

[rapbeats]

stories like this imply that Ph.D.'s are a waste and not useful

What other implication or conclusion are we suppose to get from this story?

this board is (supposedly) mostly black, so who do you think you are communicating with when you post this

This is the type of story that will cause people like @rapbeats to come and write an essay about how college is a waste and others will join in, and it ends up spreading ignorance

Stories like this do not apply to black people because black people are the least educated group in the country, it will be a long time before we have too many Ph.D. 's

uh bruh, i need you to stop with the lies. just because i dont agree with you on your all in on education push. doesnt mean i'm telling people degrees are crap and dont go to school. be dumb or uneducated and layup on ya baby mama. what i said about school you have to put it and leave it in the proper context of the discussion(s) we were having.

Do i think degrees can help black people? YES. Do i think its smart to get a liberal arts degree if you're a broke person let alone broke blake person? NO.
DO i think getting degree is THEE only way? NOPE.

Do i think getting a degree is going to save black folks? NOPE.

Do i think a bunch of black people walking around with degrees and higher incomes would put us in a position where our kids wont get shot in the street by cops? NOPE. because they dont care if you're a thug or not. youz black and thats all that matters.

DO i think if we made good money due to said degrees we would have more political power? NOPE.

So why do asians seem to have more power than blacks? Well for one its not just because they make more than whites working their 9 to 5's. It's because they have a group economy and a group think mentality. They also own a lot of businesses and a lot of land where other people's businesses sit on.

They also at times have their home governments lobbying on their behalf via deals they've made with our government something black folks cant really trump.

So for black folks to pull that off, it goes beyond a degree. we need to learn now to open a business, run a successful business and spend more money with black businesses and setting each other up with black distribution to said businesses. Who do you think the koreans are getting their supplies from or clothing in their stores(hair, clothing stores/swapmeets, etc??) They are getting it from their own korean family/friends/connections. I know this for a fact because i've had korean friends who told me this personally. i've also use to shop in spots here in Downtown L.A. to get my clothes cheaper when i was growing up. the same clothes you got in the mall i was getting it for the wholesale price for 40% cheaper or more. and once you hang awhile they're start to talk to you. They told the same story. they were getting their stuff from south korea and/or other korean distributors.

Do you really learn how to open up, own, run a successful distributor business in college? NO, or at least not in most degrees in most colleges(not even businesses degrees.) You learn this stuff by working for someone who does these things and you watch them like a hawk. Their are many successful business people of all races that have never stepped foot in a college, nor do they have a degree(obviously). But i will say this, if you want to be a worker bee in this day and age. you better get certs and/or a degree. that is the case right now.

if you want to run your own business, find out what type(s) of business you think you would be interested in. then apply to work their. try to get mentored by the owner/ceo,, anyone high up. learn the business, then do what you saw them do best and fix what you saw them do wrong.

you can also go the trades route. thats not college but its still being educated in said trade and being certified/licensed, etc.

^^This is what i believe and how i feel about school. so i dont want to hear them lies again Twism

 

[theworldismine13]

uh bruh, i need you to stop with the lies. just because i dont agree with you on your all in on education push. doesnt mean i'm telling people degrees are crap and dont go to school. be dumb or uneducated and layup on ya baby mama. what i said about school you have to put it and leave it in the proper context of the discussion(s) we were having.

Do i think degrees can help black people? YES. Do i think its smart to get a liberal arts degree if you're a broke person let alone broke blake person? NO.
DO i think getting degree is THEE only way? NOPE.

Do i think getting a degree is going to save black folks? NOPE.

Do i think a bunch of black people walking around with degrees and higher incomes would put us in a position where our kids wont get shot in the street by cops? NOPE. because they dont care if you're a thug or not. youz black and thats all that matters.

DO i think if we made good money due to said degrees we would have more political power? NOPE.

So why do asians seem to have more power than blacks? Well for one its not just because they make more than whites working their 9 to 5's. It's because they have a group economy and a group think mentality. They also own a lot of businesses and a lot of land where other people's businesses sit on.

They also at times have their home governments lobbying on their behalf via deals they've made with our government something black folks cant really trump.

So for black folks to pull that off, it goes beyond a degree. we need to learn now to open a business, run a successful business and spend more money with black businesses and setting each other up with black distribution to said businesses. Who do you think the koreans are getting their supplies from or clothing in their stores(hair, clothing stores/swapmeets, etc??) They are getting it from their own korean family/friends/connections. I know this for a fact because i've had korean friends who told me this personally. i've also use to shop in spots here in Downtown L.A. to get my clothes cheaper when i was growing up. the same clothes you got in the mall i was getting it for the wholesale price for 40% cheaper or more. and once you hang awhile they're start to talk to you. They told the same story. they were getting their stuff from south korea and/or other korean distributors.

Do you really learn how to open up, own, run a successful distributor business in college? NO, or at least not in most degrees in most colleges(not even businesses degrees.) You learn this stuff by working for someone who does these things and you watch them like a hawk. Their are many successful business people of all races that have never stepped foot in a college, nor do they have a degree(obviously). But i will say this, if you want to be a worker bee in this day and age. you better get certs and/or a degree. that is the case right now.

if you want to run your own business, find out what type(s) of business you think you would be interested in. then apply to work their. try to get mentored by the owner/ceo,, anyone high up. learn the business, then do what you saw them do best and fix what you saw them do wrong.

you can also go the trades route. thats not college but its still being educated in said trade and being certified/licensed, etc.

^^This is what i believe and how i feel about school. so i dont want to hear them lies again Twism

opening your own business and going to college are not opposite of each other, so you are spreading an erroneous idea

 

[Cynic]

what you are stating is factually correct, i think people should consider those facts when choosing what to study

but i wouldn't cross the line into telling people what they should study, i wouldn't want to stifle intellectual curiosity and creativity

Curiosity and creativity can be applied in STEM fields for profit :hitunes:

opening your own business and going to college are not opposite of each other, so you are spreading an erroneous idea

Profits >>> Wages

 

[theworldismine13]

Curiosity and creativity can be applied in STEM fields for profit :hitunes:

curiosity and creativity is everywhere

lets free our minds brehs!

 

[Cynic]

curiosity and creativity is everywhere

lets free our minds brehs!

Use a STEM gif brehs