The south making it a thing to let everyone know they don’t listen to jay Z is forced and corny

[spliz]

It’s not a single. That was your point

It's like an unofficial single.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Are u retarded?I said none of the shyt u thinking in your head wtf

Dude said jay album cuts that people know I named two. Nobody said nothing about no damn reciting anything

What song from the south that gets rapped word for word that’s not a single lol

You are such a fukking sucker

 

[Cladyclad]

Also how do Detroit nikkas not know this song if Tee Grizzley's is named after it as a rapper

Also how do Detroit nikkas not know this song if Tee Grizzley's is named after it as a homage. I'm just curious.

i didn’t say Detroit didn’t know that record. It just not popular here. T took that concept by name only

 

[spliz]

Obviously, NYC listened to other regions' take on HipHop but a/the sense of NYC/North East superiority still was a factor that permeated the game

West Coast POV on the North East Coast/NY



Southern POV on the North East Coast/NY

Yea. It's their POV. And I'm saying their POV is wrong. Lol. Yea we kind of gatekeeped to an extent but that's because it was our shyt. Imagine nikkas calling Detroit bias cause of Motown. nikkas knew they had to come to Detroit to get they shyt officially stamped back then. Same way Erykah came from Texas to Philly to get into the Neo Soul movement. Same way u gotta go to Hollywood when u wanna get into movies and NYC if u wanna get into Broadway.

 

[Cladyclad]

You are such a fukking sucker

U still on my dikk lol
Goddamn

 

[DANJ!]

Makes no sense

Southern dudes go out of their way to brag about how they never really fukked with nyc hiphop but bytch about nyc biases lol

Why the fukk is it cool for you to hate on nyc hiphop but we must fukk with not just the top south artists but must also cop Telas 3rd album or were haters

YO!

That's the thing that gets me about it! OK, y'all weren't rockin' to Smif n Wessun, GangStarr, or whatever the fukk back in the '90s, your prerogative... but let a MF from the East Coast say they never listened to Kingpin Skinny Pimp or Ghetto Mafia or some song that only got played in three states during the spring of '98, and "BIAS!" is the first thing that comes outta nikkas' mouths!

 

[Frump]

Trust it’s no inferiority complex when the south gas ran rap for damn near the past two decades.
It’s the fact that the media was playing it like Jay is the end all be all and people wasn’t listening to him or NY rappers like that down south.

No offense but it’s not a coincidence the music has gone to shyt mostly since the south has ran it

As far as the list well what’s the alternative? Make most of the top mc’s from the south to appease you guys or just make an all time list by dividing everyone up to regions?

 

[Insensitive]

Jay-Z is a fukking legend.
Why are we continuously having the SAME discussions OVER and OVER again?

Nothing will fukking change that.
Bro is a fukking titan in real life.

like HUGE in real life.

Can we talk about rappers who get less than a million monthly
listeners but are fukking TALENTED? fukk!

 

[Frump]

YO!

That's the thing that gets me about it! OK, y'all weren't rockin' to Smif n Wessun, GangStarr, or whatever the fukk back in the '90s, your prerogative... but let a MF from the East Coast say they never listened to Kingpin Skinny Pimp or Ghetto Mafia or some song that only got played in three states during the spring of '98, and "BIAS!" is the first thing that comes outta nikkas' mouths!

It really is mind boggling how they can’t see their own hypocrisy.

Like when you sit back and think about how hillarious this is. They are constantly whining about nyc arrogance but are now whining that any nyc rapper is near or at the top of the list be because THEY didn’t like them lol they are basically demanding no nyc rappers be on the list and it be mostly from the south but we are the arrogant ones

They basically are asking nyc heads to admit the south is superior and that our music from the 90’s was trash lol

Fukk it then if you’re gonna play that game then let’s talk about the tons of unintelligible garbage you’ve brought to hiphop over the years. Acting high and mighty like there isn’t tons of awful music you’ve gave to the world that we’re paying for to this day

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Yea. It's their POV. And I'm saying their POV is wrong. Lol. Yea we kind of gatekeeped to an extent but that's because it was our shyt. Imagine nikkas calling Detroit bias cause of Motown. nikkas knew they had to come to Detroit to get they shyt officially stamped back then. Same way Erykah came from Texas to Philly to get into the Neo Soul movement.

Motown and Neo Soul were both just subs-sounds of R&B, and you know where R&B originated? Southern cats never sh1t on other regions that made R&B music simply because they fathered the style. That is what NYC did....while leeching from the Southern roots that gave it life

 

[spliz]

Motown and Neo Soul were both just subs-sounds of R&B, and you know where R&B originated? Southern cats never sh1t on other regions that made R&B music simply because they fathered the style. That is what NYC did....while leeching from the Southern roots that gave it life

NY wasn't shytting on the South and I'm not finna go into the history of music n shyt like that. Hip hop as we know it originated in NYC. Hip hop was more than just music. This what u not getting. Hip hop a bunch of elements. When I say Gatekeeped I mean we had certain standards that of course other place won't have and that's fine. Like I said before the damn city as a whole didn't hate the south. We bumped that shyt if we felt it was dope. Simple as that. The bias we have is no different than other regions have for their own. And if u never spent an extended amount of time here there's no amount of posting u can do to tell me what I experienced living in this city my whole life is wrong.

 

[Piff Perkins]

i didn’t say Detroit didn’t know that record. It just not popular here. T took that concept by name only

Gucci got play anywhere there were nikkas breh, across the country. Just because you weren't outside or fukking girls doesn't mean nobody was listening to noteworthy Gucci records in Detroit fam.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

NY wasn't shytting on the South and I'm not finna go into the history of music n shyt like that.

NYC/North Easterners in the historical context of Black Americans, have always looked at Southerners on some

Hip hop as we know it originated in NYC. Hip hop was more than just music. This what u not getting. Hip hop a bunch of elements.

When I say Gatekeeped I mean we had certain standards that of course other place won't have and that's fine. Like I said before the damn city as a whole didn't hate the south. We bumped that shyt if we felt it was dope. Simple as that.

true to some extent

The bias we have is no different than other regions have for their own. And if u never spent an extended amount of time here there's no amount of posting u can do to tell me what I experienced living in this city my whole life is wrong.

As I've said before, there is a up north/big city bias but NO ONE has a bigger bias towards other regions like NYC/North Easterners do

 

[spliz]

NYC/North Easterners in the historical context of Black Americans, have always looked at Southerners on some

true to some extent





As I've said before, there is a up north/big city bias but NO ONE has a bigger bias towards other regions like NYC/North Easterners do

Bro the south didn't create hip hop. Lol. We not even gonna do that. Other than that. U can speak all the history u want. U never spent any significant amount of time in New York. U can't tell me what we did or didn't fukk wit.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Hard Knock Life sold 5 million in 98/99, and then Vol. 3 debuted in December 99 at Number 1

Like dawg what are you talking about with this Harold Miner shyt, Jay-Z was Number 2 to DMX in '98, not some also-ran

What did Jay-Z do in 1996-1997 my boy? 1998 as I stated in another thread, what was jay-z doing from Jan-August 1998?

You're telling me buddy was number #2 in 1998?? He ran 1998?? Listening to some of you dudes without the proper context, you'd think Jay-Z ran the whole 1998.
As I said, Harold Minor, folks were saying this Jay dude has next, he is the next one, but DMX stole the show. T

Can I get a w, dropped in August of 1998, Master P had been killing that whole summer and spring of 1998, I got the hook ran the theaters and NL was dropping shyt on everybody's head. How the hell is Jay-Z number 2 in 1998??

Can I get a wha came out in August of 1998 and that blew up because of JA RULE and the movie Rush Hour 2. Ja Rule stole the show on that song.

By 2013, the album had sold 5,400,000 copies in the United States The shyt hit 5x in 2013 not 1998 my boy

That album didn't sell no 5 million in the year 1998/99 cut the shyt my boy. As I stated, Jay did his usually numbers 1-2 million copies. That boy was just touching the South with his music. That single for the soundtrack helped again Ja Rule stole the show and folks were checking for him and the women were checking for Amilon in 1998. JD and Jay Money aint a thing, got Jay on radio down in ATL.