The south making it a thing to let everyone know they don’t listen to jay Z is forced and corny

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What song from the south that gets rapped word for word that’s not a single lol
Not from the south (west coast) but I guarantee you a south cat knows ambitionz of a ridah by heart

That was never a single...but bay area radio played it crazy...I imagine other places did too
 

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No offense but it’s not a coincidence the music has gone to shyt mostly since the south has ran it

As far as the list well what’s the alternative? Make most of the top mc’s from the south to appease you guys or just make an all time list by dividing everyone up to regions?
It's not the south. It's old jew men in the record industry telling you whats hot and what not. Steady saying play this trash on the radio instead of the good shyt.

No matter what region it is. Rap is trash now. Anyone can rap now. You got all these corny white artists now. shyt is sad.
 

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Not from the south (west coast) but I guarantee you a south cat knows ambitionz of a ridah by heart

That was never a single...but bay area radio played it crazy...I imagine other places did too
I'm from Miami and you damn right most of us know pretty much all non singles that were bangers from PAC by heart.

shyt Ice Cube too
 

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We liked individual Southern HipHop songs but if we're being real, NYC/North East did have an elitist outlook to/on other regions. If you know Black American history, you would know this dynamic has existed and is very well documented since the 1800s lol. This whole north vs south (or even west) hiphop is just the modern version of it lol
and that permeated into rap through discussion on the quality of hip hop, "real hip hop", and the discussion of what is "skilled" or "lyrical" in rap.

to the point that nikkas who aint even that lyrical dense, sharp with flow, or got a good delievery, gets revered as being "skilled" just for being a NY boombap act as opposed to his more lyrical dense, sharper flow west coast/southern/ non NY counterparts but isnt because he does not fit the protoype "skilled" profile.
Motown and Neo Soul were both just subs-sounds of R&B, and you know where R&B originated?:troll: Southern cats never sh1t on other regions that made R&B music simply because they fathered the style. That is what NYC did....while leeching from the Southern roots that gave it life:mjlol:




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real spit, like I said in the Billboard top 50 list

you dont see New Orleans Jazz people and gatekeepers downtalk the northern/ non New Orleans/ Ny jazz artist. even with at times New york/ northern/ or midwest artist being revered more times than the NO artist you dont see them hating or trying to gatekeep and belittle ny artist or leaving them off list or in discussions to put more less deserving less NO artist simply cause they from NO.

they gon give somebody like Sonny Rollins(New York) their credit with no negativity.

same is the case with R&B with its home being South yet Non-South artist get their props with no backhanded compliments, detracting, etc.

theres nothing wrong with NYers having a bias for their own, thats expected given we are humans

hell sometimes the anti-west/south/non NY behavior, gatekeeping is not even from New yorkers but from outsiders who dikkride east coast rap, be gatekeeping, degrade non ny rap etc

but my point being, is that this puritan attitude, gatekeeping, "real hip hop" woo woo, "skilled" rap vs "non skilled rap", lyrical and who is not, "who destroyed hip hop" etc which are all things clearly rooted in regionalism and can be done and upheld by NYers or non NYers to uphold this pro east coast/ NY angle

is ultimately weird, especially given how musical landscapes act and there is hardly anything like jazz, R&B, like it is in hip hop when it comes to the weird regional bias notions you see in rap whether its in discussions, all time ranking list, album reviews, etc.

Bro the south didn't create hip hop. Lol. We not even gonna do that. Other than that. U can speak all the history u want. U never spent any significant amount of time in New York. U can't tell me what we did or didn't fukk wit.

illmatic is from NY my G

I have deep roots in various regions of the Upper South on my moms side; Im born and raised in New York.
 

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The South gave NY a style to run with:lolbron:

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:dahell: I was born and raised in NY.

What part of NY? And if u wanna keep going back and back. We can't trace shyt back. Imagine telling Jamaica they didn't create Reggae because it has roots and elements from somewhere else. We can trace all this shyt back to Africa if u want. I can't picture anyone from NY who is old enough saying what I'm telling u is false.
 

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YO! :mjlol:

That's the thing that gets me about it! OK, y'all weren't rockin' to Smif n Wessun, GangStarr, or whatever the fukk back in the '90s, your prerogative... but let a MF from the East Coast say they never listened to Kingpin Skinny Pimp or Ghetto Mafia or some song that only got played in three states during the spring of '98, and "BIAS!" is the first thing that comes outta nikkas' mouths!

I really wouldn't expect someone from up top to even know Ghetto Mafia or Kingpin Skinny Pimp. Maybe Ghetto Mafia because they got play on Rap City, but they were like three albums in by that point. Still, if someone was introduced to Ghetto Mafia from seeing the video from "Decatur" on Rap City, they would've thought they were a new group.

Again, not knowing regional artists isn't bias. It doesn't become such until generalizations about an entire region becomes the reason not to listen to artists from said region.
 

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Honestly I'm so sick and tired of nikkas dikk riding Jay - Z. All the hate is warranted.. I'm bout to make a thread on who nikkas from the 2000s dikk rode more, Jay or Iverson
 

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Most people know them first 2 albums.no matter what coast.
People just don’t like jayz for fun


It’s all in good spirit NY brehs
Like when y’all bring up Atlanta and gay people

Or the south and guns being everywhere
 

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What did Jay-Z do in 1996-1997 my boy? 1998 as I stated in another thread, what was jay-z doing from Jan-August 1998?

You're telling me buddy was number #2 in 1998?? He ran 1998?? Listening to some of you dudes without the proper context, you'd think Jay-Z ran the whole 1998.
As I said, Harold Minor, folks were saying this Jay dude has next, he is the next one, but DMX stole the show. T

Can I get a w, dropped in August of 1998, Master P had been killing that whole summer and spring of 1998, I got the hook ran the theaters and NL was dropping shyt on everybody's head. How the hell is Jay-Z number 2 in 1998??

Can I get a wha came out in August of 1998 and that blew up because of JA RULE and the movie Rush Hour 2. Ja Rule stole the show on that song.

By 2013, the album had sold 5,400,000 copies in the United States The shyt hit 5x in 2013 not 1998 my boy

That album didn't sell no 5 million in the year 1998/99 cut the shyt my boy. As I stated, Jay did his usually numbers 1-2 million copies. That boy was just touching the South with his music. That single for the soundtrack helped again Ja Rule stole the show and folks were checking for him and the women were checking for Amilon in 1998. JD and Jay Money aint a thing, got Jay on radio down in ATL.

Ja Rule didn’t steal no show on “Can I Get A..”. He was getting that Styles P “BMF” verse treatment.

And HKL sold 4 million copies from its release date in September up until February ‘99. By 2000 it received its RIAA certification for going 5x platinum

He outsold both DMX albums (IDAHIH/FOMFBOMB) during this period as well, on top of the fact that he had the better charting and more successful singles.
 

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Honestly I'm so sick and tired of nikkas dikk riding Jay - Z. All the hate is warranted.. I'm bout to make a thread on who nikkas from the 2000s dikk rode more, Jay or Iverson
Showing respect to your peers, elders and greats is apparently reserved to Latinos, cacs and Chinese :snoop:

To too many black pride and love is only relevant when it’s anti-white, disgusting.
 
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