We liked individual Southern HipHop songs but if we're being real, NYC/North East did have an elitist outlook to/on other regions. If you know Black American history, you would know this dynamic has existed and is very well documented since the 1800s lol. This whole north vs south (or even west) hiphop is just the modern version of it lol
and that permeated into rap through discussion on the quality of hip hop, "real hip hop", and the discussion of what is "skilled" or "lyrical" in rap.
to the point that nikkas who aint even that lyrical dense, sharp with flow, or got a good delievery, gets revered as being "skilled" just for being a NY boombap act as opposed to his more lyrical dense, sharper flow west coast/southern/ non NY counterparts but isnt because he does not fit the protoype "skilled" profile.
Motown and Neo Soul were both just subs-sounds of R&B, and you know where R&B originated?

Southern cats never sh1t on other regions that made R&B music simply because they fathered the style. That is what NYC did....while leeching from the Southern roots that gave it life
real spit, like I said in the Billboard top 50 list
you dont see New Orleans Jazz people and gatekeepers downtalk the northern/ non New Orleans/ Ny jazz artist. even with at times New york/ northern/ or midwest artist being revered more times than the NO artist you dont see them hating or trying to gatekeep and belittle ny artist or leaving them off list or in discussions to put more less deserving less NO artist simply cause they from NO.
they gon give somebody like Sonny Rollins(New York) their credit with no negativity.
same is the case with R&B with its home being South yet Non-South artist get their props with no backhanded compliments, detracting, etc.
theres nothing wrong with NYers having a bias for their own, thats expected given we are humans
hell sometimes the anti-west/south/non NY behavior, gatekeeping is not even from New yorkers but from outsiders who dikkride east coast rap, be gatekeeping, degrade non ny rap etc
but my point being, is that this puritan attitude, gatekeeping, "real hip hop" woo woo, "skilled" rap vs "non skilled rap", lyrical and who is not, "who destroyed hip hop" etc which are all things clearly rooted in regionalism and can be done and upheld by NYers or non NYers to uphold this pro east coast/ NY angle
is ultimately weird, especially given how musical landscapes act and there is hardly anything like jazz, R&B, like it is in hip hop when it comes to the weird regional bias notions you see in rap whether its in discussions, all time ranking list, album reviews, etc.
Bro the south didn't create hip hop. Lol. We not even gonna do that. Other than that. U can speak all the history u want. U never spent any significant amount of time in New York. U can't tell me what we did or didn't fukk wit.
illmatic is from NY my G
I have deep roots in various regions of the Upper South on my moms side; Im born and raised in New York.