The south making it a thing to let everyone know they don’t listen to jay Z is forced and corny

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Been around here in LA and we always showed respect to NYC rappers especially the OGs of the 80s and played they music and everything

NY problem wasn’t the rappers but the wannabe I need to be known DJs/Radio Personalities/ magazine publishers that wanted to bashed the west coast and then down to the south
 

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Bro. He said even he himself was guilty of contributing to its demise. Right there in that video. He's said specifically he wasn't speaking about the South even back then. He was talking about people forgetting the roots of the shyt and not respecting it as an artform. Luda was Nas' man's. U don't think he could've called Nas if he had a problem or was confused? But what did he do? Choose to clout chase instead.
Check this.
Him explaining it here.


And here..


Again which is why I’m saying the media flamed a lot of it.
Nas himself said “I didn’t frame it right” which is why now he gets why people took offense. Which is another reason why he was able to easily have convos and patch it up.
 

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Again which is why I’m saying the media flamed a lot of it.


Nas himself said “I didn’t frame it right” which is why now he gets why people took offense. Which is another reason why he was able to easily have convos and patch it up.
Nas framed it perfectly fine. He specifically said it wasn't about the South. Nas saying now that he didn't frame it right is him being diplomatic. Thats how he moves. Hes a humble giant. He's said it on multiple occasions he wasn't speaking about the South. In all forms of media. U can't blame the media for peoples willful ignorance. Especially when someone is using the media to explain the situation. U don't think radio hosts and interviewers asked him this question back then. nikka spoke on it on MTV. He spoke on it on his album release. He spoke on it on the radio. He spoke on it during performances. And people STILL found a way to shyt on him. Can't blame the media for that.
 

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No we didn't. shyt songs like Whoomp There It Is. Tootsie Roll and Daisy Dukes was heavy up here too. My Boo got CRAZY burn. The PEOPLE up here fukked wit everything. Yes we PREFERRED our artists but so did the South. And the West. shyt u know how many nikkas LOVED Bone Thugs? Po Pimpin was on the radio 24/7 by Do or Die. Elevators. When No Limit came out it got heavy play. Even Master P's movies. Cash Money came out and it was wraps. I was at the Ruff Ryders/Cash Money concert. Let's not get started with how much nikkas loved Death Row artists. The Pharcyde. Souls Of Mischief. All of JD's artists etc etc.

We liked individual Southern HipHop songs but if we're being real, NYC/North East did have an elitist outlook to/on other regions. If you know Black American history, you would know this dynamic has existed and is very well documented since the 1800s lol. This whole north vs south (or even west) hiphop is just the modern version of it lol.
 

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Not sure what it is? You must be young. I notice the younger NYers are a little cooler than the ones my age. I don't say East Coast because I bang with Philly and NJ cats all day. It's always NYers that were very arrogant and disrespectful to people from the South. A lot of NYers caught the beats in Miami in the early 90's and changed their tune when visiting. :mjlol:

Although I don't think Jay Z was really hated in the South, there wasn't a lovefest either. A lot of people liked how he did songs with Juvy and UGK. But he wasn't heavily played in the clubs in Miami, unless you were in a tourist spot.


I listen to music from each region, I don’t have no hate towards any coast.
 

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We liked individual Southern HipHop songs but if we're being real, NYC/North East did have an elitist outlook to/on other regions. If you know Black American history, you would know this dynamic has existed and is very well documented since the 1800s lol. This whole north vs south (or even west) hiphop is just the modern version of it lol.
Bro like I said I'm born and raised in NYC. I know what we fukked wit here. We had our biases but it was no different than anyone else's. Except we held shyt a lil more near and dear cause we originated the shyt. And I'm not talking about different pieces I'm talking about what we call hip hop as a whole. U go anywhere where anything originated of course the people there are gonna have higher and even sometimes different standards. And that's with anything. But the people here. fukked with everything brodie. We didn't hate the west or the south or the midwest.
 

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I remember Luda even felt some type of way about that and him and Nas were tight as fuk.
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This happens every 5 years or so. You’ve got to realize what causes this, it’s Jay’s marketing machine that causes overloaded resentment in the masses that blows up all at once every so often. Jay is a phenomenal artist, but he’s never stood purely on his art, it’s always been a campaign like he’s running for whatever he’s telling you he is right now. He started this back on ‘03 with the best rapper alive nonsense, that was not a thought to anyone when he said that. 50 was out, X was still here, Nas was going strong, Em was going strong.

Fast forward 20 years and now he’s marketing a long verse on somebody else’s album
 

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The only time you really heard people playing him was on the big radio stations

I'm in florida and outside of the radio you really didn't hear people playing jay z like that

Block parties, uncle al fest, mlk parades, fl classic( tampa and orlando), tally homecoming, bcr,brown suga fest, car events etc you didn't hear jay z

This doesn't mean his music is trash it just means nobody wanted to listen to it like that

As a jitt all I heard the older nikkas playing was playa shyt, gangsta shyt, shyt for the hoes, shyt to shake your trunk and jam pony mixes

And jay z didn't fit into that

Basically this if you grew up outside the NE corridor IMO.

I said in another thread that Jay Z's pop/radio stuff were national but his street records were regional.

Yeah folks knew the RnB based records, super producer records, and anything that had a video but no we did not know or seek out Jay Z album cuts, freestyles and b sides.
 

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i stopped fukkin with jay after that I'm not a writer I'm a biter track, but my brother is a southern nicca and he had jay z whole catalog in 04. y'all really need to talk about how NY niccas hated on the south when NY fell off
 

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Not sure what it is? You must be young. I notice the younger NYers are a little cooler than the ones my age. I don't say East Coast because I bang with Philly and NJ cats all day. It's always NYers that were very arrogant and disrespectful to people from the South. A lot of NYers caught the beats in Miami in the early 90's and changed their tune when visiting. :mjlol:

Although I don't think Jay Z was really hated in the South, there wasn't a lovefest either. A lot of people liked how he did songs with Juvy and UGK. But he wasn't heavily played in the clubs in Miami, unless you were in a tourist spot.

Judging 8 million people from one city as arrogant is dumb as fukk

There are arrogant people from everywhere. We just have more people then everywhere else so we have more good bad and in between because of so many people

I also bet alot of dudes claiming nyc weren’t even from here but from like upstate or some sh1t trying to claim it
 

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Basically this if you grew up outside the NE corridor IMO.

I said in another thread that Jay Z's pop/radio stuff were national but his street records were regional.

Yeah folks knew the RnB based records, super producer records, and anything that had a video but no we did not know or seek out Jay Z album cuts, freestyles and b sides.
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Son half the people who worked for and ran the Source wasn't even from NY. Lol. They was transplants. Even Miss Info was from Chicago and she helped Nas get his 5 mics.
Here's the link bro.


YEA I KNOW BUT THEY WAS STILL COMMISSIONED TO DICCRIDE THE EAST N THATS MY POINT


WILL CHECK NOW
 
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