The "subliminal diss" is the most bytchmade hoe shyt ever, it's a sign of weakness.

[Taadow]

Definitely predates jigga ....Kane and Rakim already been brought up, it's just part of the game

Yeah. Jay-Z didn't invent everything rappers do. Sheesh.

Other than that, I agree with the threadstarter.

 

[R-Typ3]

Jay Z bytch ass made this popular because he don't want the heat of a nikka going at his head. Why because he's a political animal he has to be seen as the good guy instead of the hoe he is. I don't respect no rapper who follow this weak shyt. Politicians the most politcial people have the will and fortitude to say the persons name. But this rhyme stealing, biting, and swagga jacking nikka because he's portrayed as the good guy has these passive nikkas thinking they are aggressive because they indirectly say some shyt about you. This trait has always been a coward in my world and I'm sure in yours too.

I don't want to hear your subliminal rap, if it's too ambiguous and I have to engage in research to find out who you are talking about becuase you don't have the constitution to say the persons name. Your diss don't mean shyt, because you taking the punk route.

It all depends on the situation like some cats might not feel like doin a whole song or even givin a nikka the time of day of it's not worth it so a subliminal might be their way of sayin yeah nikka I heard that shyt fukk you too

 

[Taadow]

Subliminals are the epitome of talking behind someones back, because you are afraid to say it to his face. It reminds of "Wanda" on In Living Color say some slick shyt and at the same time say but you didn't hear it from me.

That wasn't Wanda; it was Bonita Betrayal.

 

[Flav]

That's like talking shyt to somebody on the net that's on your Facebook friends list but don't tag them.

Straight up sucka shyt.

 

[backbreaker65]

Definitely predates jigga ....Kane and Rakim already been brought up, it's just part of the game

Read nikka, I said made Popular.

 

[backbreaker65]

It all depends on the situation like some cats might not feel like doin a whole song or even givin a nikka the time of day of it's not worth it so a subliminal might be their way of sayin yeah nikka I heard that shyt fukk you too

bytch shyt, if he heard it and know who said it and he took time out to acknowledge, let your nuts hang.

 

[Ol’Otis]

Slugs missed you I ain't mad at cha

 

[R-Typ3]

Slow down and let the leader lead..Word to Daddy indeed

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Read nikka, I said made Popular.

Not sure how much more popular you can get than having the biggest names in rap utilizing the shyt at length...before hov....Kane, Rakim, Nas, Biggie, etc (literally too many to name)...I mean, whether people agree or not, your premise is solid enough to stand without framing Jay as some kind of pioneer of it...cause that part is factually false

 

[lucky lefty]

OP is clearly one of these pathetic, cockbuffing, bytch ass wastes of skeet who got tired of seeing their favorite god awful excuse for a rapper get ripped to shreds in the most viciously efficient and unfathomably dope manner by the Sultan of Subliminals aka the Sublime Headshot Savior aka the GOAT our Flow Lord and Lyrical Savior Hova Da Gawd

Hoe ass fakkit sees his future baby daddy spitting 30,000 garbage ass diss songs and not a single iota of a fukk being given then watches the GOAT our Flow Lord and Lyrical Savior Hova Da tear the mufuka up w/ couple bars worst than op's crackwhore mom's clients used to abuse that coochie

Next thing u know op got a rope round his neck and arrow over the Create Thread button waiting for momma last client to leave so he can ask him to kick over the stool & end his pathetic fukking existence

 

[larryshogunz]

So Hov never says names ? And only drops subs his entire career ?

I thought Hov was a leach that only hops on trends, yet everyone is doing something he started ?

I too always respect when cats get called out by name and not subs. But let's not act like this wasn't happening pre-Jay.

 

[RichYung]

Subs be FIRE if done slick.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Favorite Rap Songs: Kam Hang'em High, Holiday Madness, Still got love 4'em and peace treaty, Pretty much anything Cube, X-Clan, Paris, Public Enemy Some: Nas, Outcast, DJ Quik and many more.

Nas and Outkast for sure have subliminal shots. Though Quik, Cube, and Kam had no problems saying peoples names in their music.

As far as songs that take subliminal shots, I think this is one of the best ever.....

 

[MF_BREW]

Keeps people talking and guessing

 

[AFRAM GLORY]

When it's done right subliminals are the shyt. Honored to have grew up in two era's where one actually had to listen to music and study the shyt.

To clue in on two mc's battling sending personal messages to one another is the shyt. Especially if I never knew there was beef.