The trap shyt is slowly dying.

[Murkman]

Even if not, but why be content with the lowest common denominator in music? It's like the more rushed tracks and incomplete mixed it is, the more people like it. Quantity will never replace quality.

nikka some people like to dance and play music in a car, it's still Hip-Hop.

Boom Bap is the simplest, LCD shyt out of all styles of East Coast Hip-Hop, mass produced and oversaturated for more than 20 years. Quantity will always replace quality at some point. It starts out with quality, then it becomes a marketing ploy to sell records and set trends for everyone else to eat off of. The economical model of sampling gives way to quantity too, until clearances cost labels too much in budgeting. This is music business 101 bro, not the Jilliard School of Music. Everytime a new subgenre in Hip-Hop is made, that cycle repeats once it works.

The 80's we had New Wave and Breakbeats until '86. From there until then in 2006 it was mostly Boom Bap and G-Funk. Early 00's began the revival of Soul-sampled beats, along with Gospel influenced beats.
However, Contemporary R&B and Neo-Soul shyt emerged out the late 90's and has yet to leave when establishing their dominion in Hip-Hop. Trap came around at the end of the Golden Age, and marked a new production style for the millennium. The rest is literally history, that will not change anytime soon.

You know about KRS extending Boom Bap's lifespan with that album he made.
What makes you think Trap wasn't gonna come back in a big way?

 

[Breh Obama]

When New York nikkas like Desiigner and Young MA are making trap music....you can't say it's dying

 

[Wild self]

nikka some people like to dance and play music in a car, it's still Hip-Hop.

Boom Bap is the simplest, LCD shyt out of all styles of East Coast Hip-Hop, mass produced and oversaturated for more than 20 years. Quantity will always replace quality at some point.

It starts out with quality, then it becomes a marketing ploy to sell records and set trends for everyone else to eat off of. This is music business 101 bro, not the
Jilliard School of Music.

The 80's we had New Wave and Breakbeats until '86, from there until then I. 2006 it was mostly Boom Bap and G-Funk. Early 00's began the revival of Soul-sampled beats, along with Gospel influenced beats.
However, Trap, Contemporary R&B and Neo-Soul shyt emerged out the late 90's and has yet to leave when establishing their dominion in Hip-Hop. The rest of literally history.

Right. When record sales have plummeted to the verge of death, when streams became manipulated, and when artists are making less on their shows due to an over saturated market, is when it's thriving?

all that catering to the Drake crowd (females, kids) , and still can't develop a hard core fan base, is now considered economically stable? That's why careers for most are lasting shorter and shorter than ever.

 

[Murkman]

people have been rapping about nothing meaningful since the 80's

Braggadocious Rap will always be around, again NY paying for repercussions they began and overdid to the max.

 

[Murkman]

Right. When record sales have plummeted to the verge of death, when streams became manipulated, and when artists are making less on their shows due to an over saturated market, is when it's thriving?

all that catering to the Drake crowd (females, kids) , and still can't develop a hard core fan base, is now considered economically stable? That's why careers for most are lasting shorter and shorter than ever.

Careers are lasting shorter, because Rap fans in the community didn't buy albums and mass consumed like cacs. If we didn't waste money in worthless shyt back then and cared about supporting them in the millions, this wouldn't be happening. Thank Puffy and Suge for monopolizing Mainstream Rap that you all were die hard fans for at the time.

The signs were there, but nikkas didn't care at the time fukking too many bytches, smoking every drug known to man at the time, and not getting their money together.
This is leaving out the crack epidemic, and rising crime rates leading to mass incarceration. Male-dominated core fanbases SELDOM buy even Underground shyt, they just download mostly and never support the artist.

Females and kids been fans of Rap artists since the late 80's, it wasn't just nikkas in Adidas, Timbs in the 90's and Air Force Ones in the 00's. Drake just capitalized on that more than anybody, like everyone else.

Can you name a Rap artist who was Mainstream, that didn't have women and the youth supporting them?
It's a generational cultural phenomenon, not some David Blaine shyt.

 

[Wild self]

Careers are lasting shorter, because Rap fans in the community didn't buy albums and mass consumed like cacs. If we didn't waste money in worthless shyt back then and cared about supporting them in the millions, this wouldn't be happening. Thank Puffy and Suge for monopolizing Mainstream Rap that you all were die hard fans for at the time.

The signs were there, but nikkas didn't care at the time fukking too many bytches, smoking every drug known to man at the time, and not getting their money together.
This is leaving out the crack epidemic, and rising crime rates leading to mass incarceration. Male-dominated core fanbases SELDOM buy even Underground shyt, they just download mostly and never support the artist.

Females and kids been fans of Rap artists since the late 80's, it wasn't just nikkas in Adidas, Timbs in the 90's and Air Force Ones in the 00's. Drake just capitalized on that more than anybody, like everyone else.

Can you name a Rap artist who was Mainstream, that didn't have women and the youth supporting them?
It's a generational cultural phenomenon, not some David Blaine shyt.

You right. And that's why 360 deals are eating these new artists alive.

 

[Murkman]

You right. And that's why 360 deals are eating these new artists alive.

These new artists are one-hit wonder idiots, they won't even last after an under selling debut album. We have mainstays in the Mainstream however that aren't them, like 'em or not who are respected by Hip-Hop.

Btw, I wasn't trying to get under your skin, I hate admitting the ugly truth myself sometimes. However, on some glass half-empty shyt, the next decade will undeniably be worse in some ungodly way.

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

I think OP means fake trap rapping is dying. TI, Jeezy, Yo Gotti ain't going nowhere nikka.

 

[Wild self]

These new artists are one-hit wonder idiots, they won't even last after an under selling debut album. We have mainstays in the Mainstream however that aren't them, like 'em or not who are respected by Hip-Hop.

Btw, I wasn't trying to get under your skin, I hate admitting the ugly truth myself sometimes. However, on some glass half-empty shyt, the next decade will undeniably be worse in some ungodly way.

Next decade, cats gonna stop talking/mumbling on records altogether and just make beats. On some techno shyt.

 

[Murkman]

Next decade, cats gonna stop talking/mumbling on records altogether and just make beats. On some techno shyt.

Or beatbox, but with Hanna Barbara effects instead of actually doing it.

Ad-libs for entire verses, and hooks with rants, sticky notes instead of notepads

 

[Lootpack]

I'm down for another boom bap era.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

I went off on what I said about you in that thread about California, but damn I see how wrong I was for misjudging you. nikkas actually showing music theory knowledge?

I saw this Marley Marl video and it's sublime how 808's haven't changed AT ALL decades later , so why are East Coast nikkas saying Trap will die soon when their city made all this happen in production?




I always wondered if East Coast were responsible for that too, I'm just saying Southern
Trap is that region's illegitimate b*stard grandchild now. Think of Marl doing slapping ass beats with Trap influences, with the Boom Bap he already perfected.

Kool keith said something about the real new york sound being the 808 drum x sample collage style popularized in the the early to mid 80s...Erick sermon, then dre changed the sound up. Plus filtered basslines came in and muddied the game up.
It's a shame how triggerman is embraced by new orleans and memphis, brehs eating off that song, but no new yorkers care. Triggerman was made by New York artists.

 

[PhonZhi]

Sound might not die but sooner or later the rapping about absolutely nothing will get played out

Idk breh, the masses are getting more ignorant by the day. People don't WANT music that makes em think.

 

[Murkman]

Kool keith said something about the real new york sound being the 808 drum x sample collage style popularized in the the early to mid 80s...Erick sermon, then dre changed the sound up. Plus filtered basslines came in and muddied the game up.
It's a shame how triggerman is embraced by new orleans and memphis, brehs eating off that song, but no new yorkers care. Triggerman was made by New York artists.

LMAO those really don't recognize how even El-P has reminded them that shyt really hasn't changed all - with merging Boom Bap and Trap.

Marl probably looking at all these producers like "808's and Heartbreaks? "

 

[GreenGhxst]

You're wrong breh, wish I could say you're right