The trap shyt is slowly dying.

[GreenGhxst]

Sound might not die but sooner or later the rapping about absolutely nothing will get played out

nah bruh, they got the next wave coming

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Idk breh, the masses are getting more ignorant by the day. People don't WANT music that makes em think.

dog, that's mass music in general across all genres

 

[IllmaticDelta]

trap aint going nowhere. producers wont suddenly start sampling or playing instruments and record that shyt to make beats no one got time and money for that when you can download fl studio and some vsts

many of these traps producers play instruments.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Real trap is expanding to the point of being the new international soundbed/standard for production.
The EDM cac offshoot isn't even doing what the drill influence has done all over the globe. .

facts

 

[CrimsonTider]

I'm down for another boom bap era.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

A lot of trap producers sample. Y'all really don't do music, do you?

It's not all keys, it's not the same 3 notes.

 

[PhonZhi]

dog, that's mass music in general across all genres

post me a few current mainstream pop songs with refernces to uzi's and cooking up dope

 

[IllmaticDelta]

post me a few current mainstream pop songs with refernces to uzi's and cooking up dope

there are more "degenerate" topics/references than those 2 things. Drugs and guns have always been a part of music/popular music, thematically and lyrically

People don't WANT music that makes em think.

this exactly the purpose of "pop" music...for dancing and good times, not THINKING..






That kind of "pop"is carrying on the tradition of Tin Pan Alley

The song publishers who created Tin Pan Alley frequently had backgrounds as salesmen. The background of Isadore Witmark was selling water filters. Leo Feist had sold corsets, and Joe Stern and Edward B. Marks had sold neck-ties and buttons respectively.[7] The music houses in lower Manhattan were lively places, with a steady stream of songwriters, vaudeville and Broadway performers, musicians, and "song pluggers" coming and going.

Aspiring songwriters came to demonstrate tunes they hoped to sell. When tunes were purchased from unknowns with no previous hits, the name of someone with the firm was often added as co-composer (in order to keep a higher percentage of royalties within the firm), or all rights to the song were purchased outright for a flat fee (including rights to put someone else's name on the sheet music as the composer). Songwriters who became established producers of successful songs were hired to be on the staff of the music houses. The most successful of them, like Harry Von Tilzer and Irving Berlin, founded their own publishing firms.

"Song pluggers" were pianists and singers who made their living demonstrating songs to promote sales of sheet music. Most music stores had song pluggers on staff. Other pluggers were employed by the publishers to travel and familiarize the public with their new publications. Among the ranks of song pluggers were George Gershwin and Harry Warren. A more aggressive form of song plugging was known as "booming": it meant buying dozens of tickets for shows, infiltrating the audience and then singing the song to be plugged. At Shapiro Bernstein, Louis Bernstein recalled taking his plugging crew to cycle races at Madison Square Garden: "They had 20,000 people there, we had a pianist and a singer with a large horn. We'd sing a song to them thirty times a night. They'd cheer and yell, and we kept pounding away at them. When people walked out, they'd be singing the song. They couldn't help it."[8]

When vaudeville performers played New York City, they would often visit various Tin Pan Alley firms to find new songs for their acts. Second- and third-rate performers often paid for rights to use a new song, while famous stars were given free copies of publisher's new numbers or were paid to perform them, the publishers knowing this was valuable advertising.

Initially Tin Pan Alley specialized in melodramatic ballads and comic novelty songs, but it embraced the newly popular styles of the cakewalk and ragtime music. Later on jazz and blues were incorporated, although less completely, as Tin Pan Alley was oriented towards producing songs that amateur singers or small town bands could perform from printed music. In the 1910s and 1920s Tin Pan Alley published pop-songs and dance numbers created in newly popular jazz and blues styles

Tin Pan Alley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[PhonZhi]

there are more "degenerate" topics/references than those 2 things. Drugs and guns have always been a part of music/popular music, thematically and lyrically









this exactly the purpose of "pop" music...for dancing and good times, not THINKING..






That kind of "pop"is carrying on the tradition of Tin Pan Alley



Tin Pan Alley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

breh, you posting songs from 50 years ago when i specifically asked for CURRENT songs proves my point.

I get what you're saying but right now in 2017, there's not a more ignorant genre content wise in the mainstream than hiphop. Just be honest with yourself. You have 2 ears and a brain. It is what it is

 

[IllmaticDelta]

breh, you posting songs from 50 years ago when i specifically asked for CURRENT songs proves my point.

we've been through this before



http://www.aux.tv/2013/08/10-songs-about-crystal-meth/

The 100 Greatest Drug Songs Ever

What’s with all these country songs about drugs?

What’s with all these country songs about drugs?


10 Songs That Prove Marijuana Is Taking Over Country Music

10 Songs That Prove Marijuana Is Taking Over Country Music | Country Music Project

Heavy metal music and drug abuse in adolescents.

Heavy metal music and drug abuse in adolescents. - PubMed - NCBI

Rock and Narcotics


Rock and Narcotics

I get what you're saying but right now in 2017, there's not a more ignorant genre content wise in the mainstream than hiphop.

there is...you just don't listen



Materialism is Killing Country Music - Crisis Magazine

Country and rap music are more alike than you'd think

Why Country Stars and Rap Stars Aren't As Different As You Might Think

Rap music vs Country music: Same product different packaging

RANT – Okay I’ll Say It: Country Music in 2013 Is Sexist

Just be honest with yourself. You have 2 ears and a brain. It is what it is

I do/did...history repeats itself...all the stuff you complain about in pop music today has been going on for 100 years

 

[PhonZhi]

we've been through this before



http://www.aux.tv/2013/08/10-songs-about-crystal-meth/

The 100 Greatest Drug Songs Ever

What’s with all these country songs about drugs?

What’s with all these country songs about drugs?


10 Songs That Prove Marijuana Is Taking Over Country Music

10 Songs That Prove Marijuana Is Taking Over Country Music | Country Music Project

Heavy metal music and drug abuse in adolescents.

Heavy metal music and drug abuse in adolescents. - PubMed - NCBI

Rock and Narcotics


Rock and Narcotics






there is...you just don't listen



Materialism is Killing Country Music - Crisis Magazine

Country and rap music are more alike than you'd think

Why Country Stars and Rap Stars Aren't As Different As You Might Think

Rap music vs Country music: Same product different packaging

RANT – Okay I’ll Say It: Country Music in 2013 Is Sexist






I do/did...history repeats itself...all the stuff you complain about in pop music today has been going on for 100 years

breh, no matter how you spin it, hiphop is currently the posterboy for ignorance.

Not sure why you're arguing this. And i actually believe that hiphop requires the most intelligence out of all genres so my opinion isnt out of hatred for the artform. I love it myself. I just realize (unlike the rest of you) that the artform has been pushed in this direction purposely. The intelligence has been drained and replaced with straight up buffoonery and ignorance.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

breh, no matter how you spin it, hiphop is currently the posterboy for ignorance.

Not sure why you're arguing this. And i actually believe that hiphop requires the most intelligence out of all genres so my opinion isnt out of hatred for the artform. I love it myself. I just realize (unlike the rest of you) that the artform has been pushed in this direction purposely. The intelligence has been drained and replaced with straight up buffoonery and ignorance.

don't play stupid with me. You champion Eminem when he's the poster boy for many of the things that you complain about it

So no thread about PhonZhi complaining about destructive music but being an Eminem fan?

 

[PhonZhi]

don't play stupid with me. You champion Eminem when he's the poster boy for many of the things that you complain about it

So no thread about PhonZhi complaining about destructive music but being an Eminem fan?

now your furious cuz ive shutdown all your bullshyt in this thread

You couldnt post 1 single video like i asked

Good day sir, you can stop quoting me now

This will be my last response to you

 

[IllmaticDelta]

@PhonZhi

you gimmick/shtick ain't working with me Don't think I haven't noticed the threads when you get called on it and you never respond

 

[PhonZhi]

Cats get mad as hell when you speak the truth