The Truth Behind Guru (RIP), Dj Premier, & Solar Situation (Industry Insider Version)

[DanielAlfredsson]

Of all the people in music to manipulate, weird he targeted Guru of all people. Was there that much $ potential there?

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Guru gets written off as a basic emcee because as his career progressed his style became more basic and aggressive sounding. Knowing now he was dealing with heavy alcoholism, that could have been a byproduct. But he was spitting multi-syllabic raps in a smooth conversational tone back in 1989. I never heard anyone suggest Primo was carrying him until "Hard to Earn".

GURU's ONLY problem was his voice. It's a problem i had... But Premier being the musician he was made beats where his voice stood out, it wasnt that he carried him. He found out what made them blend together.

 

[Piff Perkins]

For the record there is zero evidence Guru was gay. Do I believe he was being extorted or something by Solar? Hell yes. But unless Premo writes a book we'll never know for sure.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

GURU's ONLY problem was his voice. It's a problem i had... But Premier being the musician he was made beats where his voice stood out, it wasnt that he carried him. He found out what made them blend together.

his voice wasn't a problem, it was actually what made people like him so much.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

his voice wasn't a problem, it was actually what made people like him so much.

even he made a reference to his monotone "style" ... i mean it wasnt a "problem", it made him standout but it wasnt animated and it could be hard for some to detect the emotion

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Guru gets written off as a basic emcee because as his career progressed his style became more basic and aggressive sounding. Knowing now he was dealing with heavy alcoholism, that could have been a byproduct. But he was spitting multi-syllabic raps in a smooth conversational tone back in 1989. I never heard anyone suggest Primo was carrying him until "Hard to Earn".

I don't think Guru gets enough credit for evolving his style over time. The way he rapped in 2003 was just as contemporary as the way he rapped in 1991. He was able to stay up to date and use different flows while maintaining his lyricism.

 

[Greenhornet]

I think (possibly) the answer has always been way more simple than people want to believe


since everyone wants a premo beat, its hard for people to comprehend

they both are to blame and had a falling out, drug problems, etc whatever youd want to call it

since premo is giving people beats and getting all this recognition, and now getting the credit for the career you created.... you'd say fukk this dude too, just to prove a point. Its like the ultimate fukk you to just avoid one of the greatest producers in hiphop history

I got good friends I dont talk to anymore because business or life went funny... and out of principle I just dont fukk with them to prove a point
what better way to prove that point than to say fukk the person everyone wants on an album who sold your groups sound out and had a falling out with you


circumstance aside, at that age ... maybe he didnt really care about music as much maybe Solar made it fun and different again and kept Guru at least making money and keeping his name alive

not saying this is what happened or is right... but it seems like the answer is way more simple than people are making it



People expect him to be money hungry, which he never was... and just live in this parallel shadow of long forgotten friendships and music because it pleases their own desires for fame and money. Who knows what happened, I always said it was fukked up that premo sold out their sound because if all them beats stayed just with Gangstarr.... they would without a doubt be the best rap group of all time.... like 600 hits

 

[International S.]

is it just me or is anyone else thinking

Guru may have had a problem with that "Ray Charles"

and got exploited by that guy due to addiction

I mean why else would they go to the bathroom together

 

[BEN23]

i just came in this thread to pay my respects....gagnstar was the first rap group i seen perform when i was little boy at boys and girls highschool
then i actually met him at green acres mall a few years later at sunglass hut with my mother...those are times i wont forget....
rip

 

[old pig]

met him twice…once at the african street festival…he performed manifest…the 2nd time was weird af…walking home from work…about to cross the street when a black mercedes jeep pulled up…window drops down and it’s fukking guru…some light skin chic was driving the car…this nikka ask me how to get to far rockaway…shyt threw me off cuz I felt like both he and the driver shoulda known that…random but cool encounter tho…had to be the early 00’s

 

[Cagny]

GURU's ONLY problem was his voice.

I guess we have a different definition of the word “problem”

 

[360dagod]

Of all the people in music to manipulate, weird he targeted Guru of all people. Was there that much $ potential there?

My current theory...

Homeboy prolly used that godbody 5%ter connection to enter the frame..

I'm sure they had mutuals in common and whatever "vices" Guru had, he created the "atmosphere" for exposal..

Female might have told him Guru becomes "mr.jailhouse love" or "tipsy tina" at the cookout when he get some Henny in the system...

He could have gotten Guru drunk at a party and placed an "alternative" living male/human around..Guru fell for the bait and Solar had whatever he needed for extortion...

I don't think him and Solar were messing around..

Solar just had some "evidence" on Guru and held him hostage..

 

[MajesticLion]

One of the best to ever grace a mic.


Peace and blessings.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

his voice wasn't a problem, it was actually what made people like him so much.

even he made a reference to his monotone style

I guess we have a different definition of the word “problem”

I was only trying to answer in the context of preemo carrying guru ... that would be the only thing I would say people would use as an arguemtn for Preemo carrying Guru

 

[Obie Obie]

Preemo porno beats? (Pause)

There is no way i can be the nut cracker while listening to a preemo beat