The UN votes to condemn Russia as an aggressor state and demands its withdrawal from Ukraine. The USA, Russia, Israel and North Korea vote NO.

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The article is wrong.

Anglo will fight the emergence of an Eurasian power. Always. Read MacKinder and MacLuhan

Is he doing a bad job at splitting China and Russia?

We will see in 12 months
Like I said, if you think China and Russia are unaware of the “Reverse Kissinger” that all of social media knows about then that’s really thinking Putin and Xi are insanely dumb. That is highly wishful thinking and hopium.

It’s more likely those two countries are very well aware of it and the more probable outcome is we’re getting played. Especially if we’re dumb enough to do what we’re doing to our own country and it’s allies right now.

If anything they’re reversing the “RevERSe KiSsinGeR 🤓” and making us split from Europe, and it’s working so far.
 
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Do you see now? MAGA are backed by billionaires that want to send us to 1930s or 19th century with democracy being eliminated and white supremacy controlling everything. They like the russian model because russians wiped out many minorities inside russia over past 3 decades.

They will do the same in here, either in a war with china where they send minorities to war first or wiping out some of minorities in a civil war here if it ever happened. Plus they don't care if a fukking civil war happened inside America. They would just buy properties for dirt cheap after war and shyt like that.
do they not think once fatso gets all the power he will choose which one of them lives or dies and when.

putin got his power and russian billionaires/wealthy have been known to "jump" out of windows...those who managed to escape are exiled.
 

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Like I said, if you think China and Russia are unaware of the “Reverse Kissinger” that all of social media knows about then that’s really thinking Putin and Xi are insanely dumb. That is highly wishful thinking and hopium.

It’s more likely those two countries are very well aware of it and the more probable outcome is we’re getting played. Especially if we’re dumb enough to do what we’re doing to our own country and it’s allies right now.

If anything they’re reversing the “RevERSe KiSsinGeR 🤓” and making us split from Europe, and it’s working so far.
Of course they know about it, but that's not the point.

You think Russians are loving being dependant on China? You think Mao then Deng did not see see the game Kissinger was playing? They still went with it because it was a juicy deal.

The whole negociation is about what the US can give to Russia so iy dostance itself from China. There is a good chunk of the russian elite who sees themselves as westerners and don't want to get too close to China... I'm not saying it's gonna work cause China will try to counter it, but it's possible. Wait and see. At the end the day, it's aboiut what the US can give to Russia and what Russia think is acceptable to lose.

And the Europe ain't splitting from the US. Europe ain"t got nowhere to go. They are a hoe who can't leave her abuse boyfriend. Why do you think Macron ran to Trump? Starmer is alos coming. I ain't even gonna talk about Meloni...
The only way Europe can get away from the US is getting close to... Russia...
 

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Of course they know about it, but that's not the point.

You think Russians are loving being dependant on China? You think Mao then Deng did not see see the game Kissinger was playing? They still went with it because it was a juicy deal.

The whole negociation is about what the US can give to Russia so iy dostance itself from China. There is a good chunk of the russian elite who sees themselves as westerners and don't want to get too close to China... I'm not saying it's gonna work cause China will try to counter it, but it's possible. Wait and see. At the end the day, it's aboiut what the US can give to Russia and what Russia think is acceptable to lose.

And the Europe ain't splitting from the US. Europe ain"t got nowhere to go. They are a hoe who can't leave her abuse boyfriend. Why do you think Macron ran to Trump? Starmer is alos coming. I ain't even gonna talk about Meloni...
The only way Europe can get away from the US is getting close to... Russia...
I don’t think they’re trying to put the decision of Europe walking away from the U.S, but the U.S walking away from Europe - which is what Trump is basically doing right now.

The more we trust Russian interest the more we’re at risk, much worse than China is honestly.

This whole move resulting in us now being against the Ukraine has increased our risk profile exponentially. We went from draining Russia/North Korean resources to now potentially supporting one of our biggest threats, who very well can be conspiring with China and North Korea against us. They don’t have to honor anything if we’re so willing to give it up.

Russia also doesn’t have to go all-in either, they can be taking both China and the U.S assistance here. They don’t have to choose one or the other. None of these countries really do. That’s actually what Israel does: sides with the U.S today, sides with Russia/China tomorrow. Nothing in the rulebook that says Russia can’t do that either, Super Power or not.

Point is doing what we’re doing now is dumb: Russia didn’t want to keep the Ukraine conflict going because they wouldn’t have been able to sustain it vs NATO. Now we gave them an easy out with us potentially walking away as a whole from allies. Historically that hasn’t worked in war. They’re not going to forget all the soldiers lost to U.S assistance so easily and if we’re acting like they are then that is an insane miscalculation.
 
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I don’t think they’re trying to put the decision of Europe walking away from the U.S, but the U.S walking away from Europe - which is what Trump is basically doing right now.

The more we trust Russian interest the more we’re at risk, much worse than China is honestly.

This whole move resulting in us now being against the Ukraine has increased our risk profile exponentially. We went from draining Russia/North Korean resources to now potentially supporting one of our biggest threats, who very well can be conspiring with China and North Korea against us. They don’t have to honor anything if we’re so willing to give it up.

Russia also doesn’t have to go all-in either, they can be taking both China and the U.S assistance here. They don’t have to choose one or the other. None of these countries really do.

Point is doing what we’re doing now is dumb: Russia didn’t want to keep the Ukraine conflict going because they wouldn’t have been able to sustain it vs NATO. Now we gave them an easy out with us potentially walking away as a whole from allies. Historically that hasn’t worked in war. They’re not going to forget all the soldiers lost to U.S assistance so easily and if we’re acting like they are then that is an insane miscalculation.
Your whole calculation is based on Russia being a major threat...

Trump and a good chunk of the US elite does not see Russia as a big threat; the big one is China (Obama: 'Russia is just a gas station with nuke')

The entire US policy is shifting toward containing China and some sacrifices are gonna be made.

Is the reverse Kissinger strategy gonna work? I don't know. Wait and see.


Europe? The US is gonna eat Europe; It has already started with Biden with IRA. To reinforce the US economy and industry in order to face China, the US is gonna cannibalize the EU. That's why Europeans are panicking.

The US is fighting to maintain is hegemony. The gloves are off. That's how I see it.
 

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Your whole calculation is based on Russia being a major threat...

Trump and a good chunk of the US elite does not see Russia as a big threat; the big one is China (Obama: 'Russia is just a gas station with nuke')

The entire US policy is shifting toward containing China and some sacrifices are gonna be made.

Is the reverse Kissinger strategy gonna work? I don't know. Wait and see.


Europe? The US is gonna eat Europe; It has already started with Biden with IRA. To reinforce the US economy and industry in order to face China, the US is gonna cannibalize the EU. That's why Europeans are panicking.

The US is fighting to maintain is hegemony. The gloves are off. That's how I see it.
Breh, if Trump and then complained that Europe is draining U.S resources, what do you think Russia is going to do to the U.S?

It’s also assuming Russia/China/NK/Iran/Israel aren’t planning anything together. I don’t know how cutting defense spending, cutting the CHIPS act, etc. is the answer to containing China.

Funny thing is, this all changes dramatically if Republicans and Trump get voted out the next 4-8 years, of which policy changes dramatically again to potentially be anti-Russian. You best believe Russia and China are considering that and are using this time to plant their seeds internally into Trump’s system.

Then it’s too late and checkmate.
 
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Breh, if Trump and then complained that Europe is draining U.S resources, what do you think Russia is going to do to the U.S?

It’s also assuming Russia/China/NK/Iran/Israel aren’t planning anything together. I don’t know how cutting defense spending, cutting the CHIPS act, etc. is the answer to containing China.

Funny thing is, this all changes dramatically if Republicans and Trump get voted out the next 4-8 years, of which policy changes dramatically again to potentially be anti-Russian. You best believe Russia and China are considering that and are using this time to plant their seeds internally into Trump’s system.
Too many if.

There are too many things you and I don't know.

Wait and see. We'll have a better vision in a few months.
 
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China watching it's enemies destroy eachother..

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So what's the over/under on a complete global meltdown and violent revolution in the next 3-5 years?
 
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