The Used Car Bubble is set to BURST. What Ya'll Copping when these prices DROP? :blessed:

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This is inaccurate. The 5th Gen Jeep Grand Cherokee/Grand Cherokee L (2021 - present) is now built on the FCA Giorgio platform.



I agree, however the 5.7 L V8 HEMI is still available for the GC-L model currently plus one of Stellantis new incoming twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-6 powertrains will replace the old Pentastar 3.6 V6 for future GC/GC-L models.

Fair. I'm not entirely sure I'd be buying that new GC -- that new inline 6 looks promising, but let's be honest, is the first year of any model that's undergone a redesign and a powertrain change a good idea? Even Lexus has had issues with new powertrains.
 

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This is inaccurate. The 5th Gen Jeep Grand Cherokee/Grand Cherokee L (2021 - present) is now built on the FCA Giorgio platform.



I agree, however the 5.7 L V8 HEMI is still available for the GC-L model currently plus one of Stellantis new incoming twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-6 powertrains will replace the old Pentastar 3.6 V6 for future GC/GC-L models.
I kind of wish Chrysler would've released that twin turbo pentastar 3.6 they had in development for the SRT-6 Journey. That engine paired with that vehicle would've been the ultimate grocery getter/sleeper. :dead:
 

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Fair. I'm not entirely sure I'd be buying that new GC -- that new inline 6 looks promising, but let's be honest, is the first year of any model that's undergone a redesign and a powertrain change a good idea? Even Lexus has had issues with new powertrains.

I totally agree. However, my mother drives a Grand Cherokee (2022 GC Summit Reserve) & it has been excellent thus far, however there will always be teething problems with any new vehicle with a complete redesign.
 

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Whats good with the Cadillac CT6

Great car, discontinued far, far too soon. GM likes to experiment sometimes, and that car has some innovative manufacturing tech (i.e welding aluminum to steel), and self-driving tech (Super Cruise!) If you can get a Blackwing version, hold onto it.; it'll probably be worth some money in the future. Sidenote: That car isn't as big as the German large sedans, but it handles well, and is large enough for most people. If you intend on driving long distances on the highway with your, DEFINITELY get one with Super Cruise; the system is arguably better than Tesla's autopilot, but GM doesn't market the tech and doesn't put it on every vehicle. There's a bunch of engine choices, most are of the 3.6 variety or the 3.0TT. The Bose Panaray system that's an option on that car is hit or miss -- if you like Bose sound systems, then you might like it, but if you're an audiophile and prefer sound clarity, it might not be something you want.
 

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I totally agree. However, my mother drives a Grand Cherokee (2022 GC Summit Reserve) & it has been excellent thus far, however there will always be teething problems with any new vehicle with a complete redesign.

FCA, out of all the domestic makes, REALLY gets their money's worth out of their vehicle platforms. Not that there's anything wrong with that -- they do tend to update the interior/exterior of their vehicles more often because of that though, as well as add some features. I almost wonder what these Challenger/Charger/300 owners are going to do once they discontinue that platform and move onto something more modern.
 

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Civics market crazy still, new ones have ADMs on them because of demand. I think you can probably get below msrp on a new mazda 3. They weren't that discounted pre covid anyway. You should sit in them tho, some people don't like the mazda 3's because it feels like a coffin (less glass). Can't speak on the Sentra but that CVT will give out around 80-100k miles.
I appreciate that information man, I woulda been pouring jelly on myself.

are there any other brands you might recommend?
 

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Define better. They're quite a bit different. The GC is an older platform, it's issues are very, VERY well documented, and most of them out there are V6's. That being said, the GC is arguably Jeeps's best vehicle (the jury is still out on the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer). The Atlas had some early teething issues, and it's a VW, so expect the check engine light to appear at LEAST once while it's under warranty -- any VW owner who says they didn't have a CEL at least once during the warranty period is being less than honest. That being said, the Atlas is arguably nicer on the inside than the GC (as it should be, it's newer), but it's not as suited as going off road as the GC is. Size wise, the Atlas is a little bigger, but the GC has an absolutely HUGE gas tank for the size vehicle that it is, and it has a ton of range if you go on a lot of long trips with your car. Ultimately, it comes down to what you want out of the vehicle, and ultimately, how the dealership experience is for you. YMMV -- Chrysler and VW dealerships can be hit or miss (this ESPECIALLY applies to Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Ram dealers) with regards to warranty. (i.e a tech at the Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge/Ram dealer had to change the oil cooler/oil filter housing on a GC, and the vehicle was under warranty; the warranty covered the labor and the part itself, but wouldn't cover flushing the cooling system and the engine even though the fluids mixed because of the failed part; ridiculous) :wtf: :dead: There's a reason why there's a massive shortage of technicians, that's just one reason why :snoop:

Edit: For the GC or the Atlas, get a warranty that covers as much as possible, and if you can find out if the warranty company pays customer pay rates to the dealership, your car is more likely to get fixed properly; because the technician that's fixing your car is being fairly compensated for the work he's doing, instead of working for free (which happens more often than you think; there's a reason most techs do NOT want to talk to customers)
Oh I see. Nice. Thanks

I’ll stick with the GC. Black on black :ohlawd:

I order the off-road look and feel to the luxury feel.
 

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I appreciate that information man, I woulda been pouring jelly on myself.

are there any other brands you might recommend?

If Hyundai hadn't screwed up the look of the Elantra, I'd say get yourself an Elantra Sport (referring to as N-Line now) -- decent tech (Android Auto, Apple Car Play, good power, equivalent to an Civic Si performance wise, wireless charging, Hyundai Smart Key (your smart phone is your key to the vehicle), and some other safety related items. It's a lot of car for the money (even though the price has increased a bit since Covid). The biggest issue with car, is that it only has a 12 gallon tank.
 

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If Hyundai hadn't screwed up the look of the Elantra, I'd say get yourself an Elantra Sport (referring to as N-Line now) -- decent tech (Android Auto, Apple Car Play, good power, equivalent to an Civic Si performance wise, wireless charging, Hyundai Smart Key (your smart phone is your key to the vehicle), and some other safety related items. It's a lot of car for the money (even though the price has increased a bit since Covid). The biggest issue with car, is that it only has a 12 gallon tank.
I saw the same thing about the Mazda 3 but tbh I can live with that.
 
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