The White Man is really tryna force Frank Ocean on the ppl

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Does he get more press/interest due to coming out? Sure. But the move could have easily backfired too...

He's not being given anything for free. Dude is talented and released a good album, of course he was gonna get rewarded.
 

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Yeah, it's just a coincidence that Frank Ocean became much more popular and accepted by the establishment at the same time he came out the closet. Silly of me to think it was a hidden agenda.

Gee, maybe he got more popular because he released his DEBUT ALBUM ON A MAJOR LABEL a few days after he came out. :laff:

Of course his coming out got him attention, but he wouldn't be shyt if he didn't drop a dope ass album. He put out a great album that sold well and got tons of critical acclaim. That's all there is too it. If he announced he was gay then dropped a dud, he'd be Tevin Campbell status right now.

Take off the tinfoil hat bruh.
 

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Yeah, a guy that worked with Jay/Kanye, Nas, wrote for Beyonce and Bieber hadn't been accepted by the establishment.

People were :favre: to Nostalgia, Ultra and were :gladbron: at Pyramids and Sweet Life, all which came out before he did. You had Weeknd and Frank stans going at each other on here and the old site.

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The Dream worked with all the artists you named. Where's his grammy performance? He wrote Rihanna's biggest song.
 

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I find it interesting that it's Blackthoughts that's throwing up the fist here :beli: never knew he cared about much past the Warriors BUT I DO agree with what he is saying here...mainstream media IS pushing a "alternative" agenda on us...hell the other night I just happened to watch sly FOX programming with my girl and from American Idol to Glee to the damn news all I saw was a bunch of Gay shyt :beli: is this what you want YOUR KIDS watching :scusthov: now they getting all the damn awards and shyt...all you nikkas might as well go and put on a damn dress. Y'all watching channel zero for real :what:
 

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The Dream worked with all the artists you named. Where's his grammy performance? He wrote Rihanna's biggest song.

Yeah, they should have had him up there performing the song he wrote for Rihanna.

It'll be like when Pharrell performed Milshake at the 04 Grammys.

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Take off the tinfoil hat bruh.

I'm an educated African American bruh. Yeah it's beyond the realm of reality for me to believe that the same government that sent this letter out to every FBI office in the country could do the same thing in 2013. This letter was written in your parents lifetime by J.Edgar Hoover director of the FBI.

1. Prevent the COALITION of militant black nationalist groups. In
unity there is strength; a truism that is no less valid for all its
triteness. An effective coalition of black nationalist groups might be the
first step toward a real "Mau Mau" [Black revolutionary army] in America,
the beginning of a true black revolution.


2. Prevent the RISE OF A "MESSIAH" who could unify, and
electrify, the militant black nationalist movement. Malcolm X might have
been such a "messiah;" he is the martyr of the movement today. Martin
Luther King, Stokely Carmichael and Elijah Muhammed all aspire to this
position.
Elijah Muhammed is less of a threat because of his age. King
could be a very real contender for this position should he abandon his
supposed "obedience" to "white, liberal doctrines" (nonviolence) and embrace
black nationalism. Carmichael has the necessary charisma to be a real
threat in this way.

3. Prevent VIOLENCE on the part of black nationalist groups. This
is of primary importance, and is, of course, a goal of our investigative
activity; it should also be a goal of the Counterintelligence Program to
pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them before they
exercise their potential for violence.

4. Prevent militant black nationalist groups and leaders from
gaining RESPECTABILITY, by discrediting them to three separate segments of
the community
. The goal of discrediting black nationalists must be handled
tactically in three ways. You must discredit those groups and individuals
to, first, the responsible Negro community. Second, they must be
discredited to the white community, both the responsible community and to
"liberals" who have vestiges of sympathy for militant black nationalist
[sic] simply because they are Negroes. Third, these groups must be
discredited in the eyes of Negro radicals, the followers of the movement.
This last area requires entirely different tactics from the first two.
Publicity about violent tendencies and radical statements merely enhances
black nationalists to the last group; it adds "respectability" in a different
way.

5. A final goal should be to prevent the long-range GROWTH of
militant black organizations, especially among youth
. Specific tactics to
prevent these groups from converting young people must be developed. [...]

They know how to play these mind games bruh. They know how to credit and discredit individuals. Frank Ocean is damn sure being credited. Show me a Black Man for his ppl that is credited by the establishment.
 

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I find it interesting that it's Blackthoughts that's throwing up the fist here :beli: never knew he cared about much past the Warriors BUT I DO agree with what he is saying here...mainstream media IS pushing a "alternative" agenda on us...hell the other night I just happened to watch sly FOX programming with my girl and from American Idol to Glee to the damn news all I saw was a bunch of Gay shyt :beli: is this what you want YOUR KIDS watching :scusthov: now they getting all the damn awards and shyt...all you nikkas might as well go and put on a damn dress. Y'all watching channel zero for real :what:

:wtf: Frank won TWO awards - one of which was really Jay & Kanye's award. Should be he disqualified from winning for being gay?
 

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Yeah, they should have had him up there performing the song he wrote for Rihanna.

It'll be like when Pharrell performed Milshake at the 04 Grammys.

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The Dream never had a solo hit? You're talking about him working with Beyoncé as if he sung a single with her.
 

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It's amazing to me that ppl think Frank Ocean is as popular as he is based solely on his music. And those that believe this are adamant that it's his music that has gotten him this far. That must be 1 great album to get you all this acclaim as an urban artist without having a song that everybody knows about.
 

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I'm an educated African American bruh. Yeah it's beyond the realm of reality for me to believe that the same government that sent this letter out to every FBI office in the country could do the same thing in 2013.



They know how to play these mind games bruh. They know how to credit and discredit individuals. Frank Ocean is damn sure being credited. Show me a Black Man for his ppl that is credited by the establishment.
lol...so it's the government that's behind the secret plot to make black men gay by letting Frank Ocean perform at the Grammys now? :heh:

I wish I could help you, but you're lost. You're one of this people who is so controlled by their biases and fears and that you rationalize a progression of society that you don't deem palatable by attributing it to a nefarious plot by invisible, untouchable cabals.

You are no different than the racist cacs--skinheads, John Birch Society members, militia members, st0rmfr0nt posters, etc. who swear up and down that Jewish elites in media and government are trying to destroy the white man through planned "******ization" of society; promotion of a "black agenda" in media in entertainment.

What's sad is you smart dumb nikkas, racist cacs, and homophobes cite the exact same sources and use the same easily refuted lines of reasoning.

Either one of these various conflicting conspiratorial agendas is correct and all the rest are wrong...

Or society naturally progresses over time more toward a place where we see our mutual humanity in people different than us and become more accepting and less hateful and fearful.

One makes a lot more sense than the other. But I digress.
 

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You are no different than the racist cacs--skinheads, John Birch Society members, militia members, st0rmfr0nt posters, etc. who swear up and down that Jewish elites in media and government are trying to destroy the white man through planned "******ization" of society; promotion of a "black agenda" in media in entertainment.

:ohhh:

That part is especially true, I have seem some racists whites talk about that. Saying that Rihanna is being pushed as a role model for little girls as part of the ******ization of America and stuff like that. They say the same thing about Hip Hop being as big as it is now being part of an agenda to blackify shyt.

VictorVon motherfukking Doom :myman:
 

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I find it interesting that it's Blackthoughts that's throwing up the fist here :beli: never knew he cared about much past the Warriors BUT I DO agree with what he is saying here...mainstream media IS pushing a "alternative" agenda on us...hell the other night I just happened to watch sly FOX programming with my girl and from American Idol to Glee to the damn news all I saw was a bunch of Gay shyt :beli: is this what you want YOUR KIDS watching :scusthov: now they getting all the damn awards and shyt...all you nikkas might as well go and put on a damn dress. Y'all watching channel zero for real :what:


well, i'll ask you just like i asked other dude. what the hell are you doing to fight this then. because yall wanna say they pushing this agenda & its kids needing strong guidance, just what have you been doing to help the young boy & girls become young men & young woman. its easy as hell to sit on internet talking fight the power & when its time log off sleep comfortably knowing you typing this shiit out.
 
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