The world was better when we thought Drake was writing his songs

[WTFisWallace?]

OP wanna be plugged back in

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Y'all trippin. Drake's pen is up there w/ the best. He wrote Alicia Key's Unthinkable.

Drake actually made it to where he is by being a ghostwriter.

Just the song I was gonna come in here and mention.

Forever a personal classic

 

[Piff Perkins]

The writing on the wall for Drayoncé was when The Weeknd stopped writing for him after Take Care and Nothing Was the Same being a major let down (plus Kendrick sonning him in the BET Cypher). Then you had IYRTITL being proven to have ghost writers. Seemed like Views was the one place he could have remained a pop rapper with "One Dance", "Feel no ways", and Controlla", and just stayed in that pop lane to keep making people dance and waving their hands.

Hold on. Who thinks NWTS was a major let down? It's one of his most popular albums with fans and critics. Some of his best singles are on there too.

I also kinda disagree on Take Care being the first indication of ghostwriting. Yes, Abel "gave" him half of the album if not more. But I don't think anymore here has an issue with rappers buying hooks or having writers for r&b bridges/choruses. That's normal for rap shyt. To me the first indication about ghostwriting was before Take Care, when rumors about Hush were in the wind (twitter, Coli, rap blogs etc) but nobody really knew for sure. Then a few years later when King Kunta came out I figured it must be true but we'd never get proof.

 

[JustCKing]

Y'all trippin. Drake's pen is up there w/ the best. He wrote Alicia Key's Unthinkable.

Drake actually made it to where he is by being a ghostwriter.

That song is a classic, but let's not act like it was elite writing. I still laugh at the thought of Drake's songs being elite level lyrically. I am not talking multisyllabic metaphor driven lyrics, I'm talking about lyrics with emotional depth when a lot of his music was more introspective and relationship driven. I hate even bringing that up because it will be some smart dummy to say, "expect emotional depth from someone who doesn't write breh". That isn't the point. I'm saying regardless of who wrote what, the lyrics lacked emotional depth. I am not talking about his delivery or his flow or whatever. I'm talking about the lyrics themselves. Its the opposite of Puff where it sounded like he was reading off paper even though the lyrics written for him by someone else were incredible.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Y'all trippin. Drake's pen is up there w/ the best. He wrote Alicia Key's Unthinkable.

Drake actually made it to where he is by being a ghostwriter.

You don't know he wrote that... we're you in the studio everything with drakes name attached is in question

this does bring up a good question like per coli…..

How much of his raps do yall think someone ghostwrote for him….


Drake got like a 1000 songs….

so if peep are saying 60-80% (600-800 songs) well then that’s one thing


But if it’s like 5-10 songs, what are we really talking about??

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

this does bring up a good question like per coli…..

How much of his raps do yall think someone ghostwrote for him….


Drake got like a 1000 songs….

so if peep are saying 60-80% (600-800 songs) well then that’s one thing


But if it’s like 5-10 songs, what are we really talking about??

It's more than 5-10 just going by this thread

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/lettuce-discuss-how-drake-been-stealing-songs-since-money-to-blow.1028467/

 

[jesc07]

That song is a classic, but let's not act like it was elite writing. I still laugh at the thought of Drake's songs being elite level lyrically. I am not talking multisyllabic metaphor driven lyrics, I'm talking about lyrics with emotional depth when a lot of his music was more introspective and relationship driven. I hate even bringing that up because it will be some smart dummy to say, "expect emotional depth from someone who doesn't write breh". That isn't the point. I'm saying regardless of who wrote what, the lyrics lacked emotional depth. I am not talking about his delivery or his flow or whatever. I'm talking about the lyrics themselves. Its the opposite of Puff where it sounded like he was reading off paper even though the lyrics written for him by someone else were incredible.

If that song wasn't elite writing then why you ain't write it

If you want backpack rap then Drake got that with 30 for 30 freestyle, 7am on a Bridle Path, etc

If you want emotional shyt then he got that too...Connect, Days in the East, Away From Home

And if you don't even want rap and you want some r&b he got that too.

Dancehall too. Ain't nobody else doing that

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

Beyonce has a writing credit on irreplaceable.... neo wrote the whole shyt... dont tell me drake wrote this and drake wrote that.. the industry shady like that

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

If that song wasn't elite writing then why you ain't write it

If you want backpack rap then Drake got that with 30 for 30 freestyle, 7am on a Bridle Path, etc

If you want emotional shyt then he got that too...Connect, Days in the East, Away From Home

And if you don't even want rap and you want some r&b he got that too.

Dancehall too. Ain't nobody else doing that

That's nice but that could be different writers writing differen styles for him... just because a verse mentioned something personal doesn't mean he wrote the shyt.. everything is in question..

 

[jesc07]

That's nice but that could be different writers writing differen styles for him... just because a verse mentioned something personal doesn't mean he wrote the shyt.. everything is in question..

I guess these "ghostwriters" lack "emotional depth" then

 

[JustCKing]

If that song wasn't elite writing then why you ain't write it

If you want backpack rap then Drake got that with 30 for 30 freestyle, 7am on a Bridle Path, etc

If you want emotional shyt then he got that too...Connect, Days in the East, Away From Home

And if you don't even want rap and you want some r&b he got that too.

Dancehall too. Ain't nobody else doing that

It isn't about what I wrote. From my understanding, he wrote the Alicia Keys during the session for "Fireworks". She didn't need Drake writing for her. She's a writer who wrote songs for other artists. Just because she had Drake write a song for her doesn't make the writing elite. I even acknowledged the song is classic. It's one of my favorite songs of her's. Some songs don't need to be elite level to be classic.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

I guess these "ghostwriters" lack "emotional depth" then

I like the songs you mentioned.. I used to listen to him heavy.. just dont trust he wrote everything and gets help

 

[jesc07]

It isn't about what I wrote. From my understanding, he wrote the Alicia Keys during the session for "Fireworks". She didn't need Drake writing for her. She's a writer who wrote songs for other artists. Just because she had Drake write a song for her doesn't make the writing elite. I even acknowledged the song is classic. It's one of my favorite songs of her's. Some songs don't need to be elite level to be classic.

Flip Drake and Alicia Keys and what you said still remains true.

 

[PHamm]

the songs where he had help on weren't even that good lyrically

i think its pretty obvious when he writes vs when he collabs

50 cent influenced username
Wayne in the avi
Defending Aubrey

You have shyt taste in music

 

[L $ C]

mob ties hurt....

rather than that...Drakes wrote for a lot of other people so meh doesnt bother me too much his pen is official... hes not a nas or a jay ok no big deal

i mean kanye told you hes worth 5 diff writers himself