There is go the term “YN’s” gonna go mainstream and be used as a slur against us now 🤦🏾‍♂️

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they weren't using "n*gga" they were using "n*gger"


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I'm of the opinion that both variants mean the same thing and if that's what you're arguing here, I wholeheartedly agree.
They definitely mean the same thing and there's plenty of evidence of black people in that era enunciating it as "nikka". That's if you need evidence; my family is and was (for those who've passed) full of mf's born in the 30s and 40s who said/say "nikka" the way we say it today---->and they era ain't the era that started pronouncing it that way...
 

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They definitely mean the same thing and there's plenty of evidence of black people in that era enunciating it as "nikka". That's if you need evidence; my family is and was (for those who've passed) full of mf's born in the 30s and 40s who said/say "nikka" the way we say it today---->and they era ain't the era that started pronouncing it that way...

Many Black people tend to pronounce words that end in er with an "a" sound, especially in the south.
 

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How often do you even hear those words in music and other forms of media? How often do you see those words in comment sections online? How often do you hear those words in conversations in your day-to-day?
Did you forget about that den do nufiin fourchan bullshyt

I think you missed my point… racist white people are going to think the worst of us … If you’re brought here from a ship or from the diaspora

Bottom line is, I don’t think that stop using or referring to black people as nikkas is going change anything
 

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So does Sam Smith call himself a f*g in his songs with frequency?

Did Elton John start doing it?

Does Chapelle Roan use slurs to the same extent?

LGBT people use f*g WAY less comparatively. And not in the same derogatory way.

I've seen people say

Dumb ass nikka
Stupid ass nikka
I hate these nights

Do other groups use their slurs like this?

Do Mexicans say "stupid ass spic" to another Mexican as much?

Do Asians call each other "dumb ass chink" as much?

This is really a chicken and egg issue. The word is popular because a few Black people used it in a public space or on a record, and then and then the machine of the record industry mass marketed it, which only attracted more people interested in normalizing the word on vinyl. So I'm still not putting this on Black people. There's a machine behind why some things are produced in mass and put on the market. If you take a peek into gay culture, the "f-word" word gets thrown around quite a lot in some circles. And among women, the word "bytch" also gets thrown around a lot. The difference is there's no capitalistic entity like a record label trying to craft an image and profit off the use of those slurs, so they aren't mainstream. I would say that the proliferation of the word is driven more by market forces and industry than Black people themselves, but that's another debate. You're trying to blame Black men for the mainstream use of the word and I just don't think it's that simple.
 

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This is really a chicken and egg issue. The word is popular because a few Black people used it in a public space or on a record, and then and then the machine of the record industry mass marketed it, which only attracted more people interested in normalizing the word on vinyl. So I'm still not putting this on Black people. There's a machine behind why some things are produced in mass and put on the market. If you take a peek into gay culture, the "f-word" word gets thrown around quite a lot in some circles. And among women, the word "bytch" also gets thrown around a lot. The difference is there's no capitalistic entity like a record label trying to craft an image and profit off the use of those slurs, so they aren't mainstream. I would say that the proliferation of the word is driven more by market forces and industry than Black people themselves, but that's another debate. You're trying to blame Black men for the mainstream use of the word and I just don't think it's that simple.
Okay but do gay people give straight people the "f word pass"?

bytch isn't the same as the n word, but I get your point. But still... do women give men "the pass" for saying? That's not including how the dynamic between men and women is as well (femininity, masculinity, submission, dominance, etc.)

With race they're ain't much of an excuse. It's rooted in poor self esteem and feelings of inferiority imo.

No one forces black people to give a white person the n word pass. Or to tolerate them saying it. Rap songs don't tell black people to give the n word pass.

And you would think that we wouldn't so easily succumb to media brainwashing if it's against us. There were literally black people in the 80s and 90s who rallied against this type of stuff but it was other black people who pushed back against it.
 

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Okay but do gay people give straight people the "f word pass"?

bytch isn't the same as the n word, but I get your point. But still... do women give men "the pass" for saying? That's not including how the dynamic between men and women is as well (femininity, masculinity, submission, dominance, etc.)

With race they're ain't much of an excuse. It's rooted in poor self esteem and feelings of inferiority imo.

No one forces black people to give a white person the n word pass. Or to tolerate them saying it. Rap songs don't tell black people to give the n word pass.

And you would think that we wouldn't so easily succumb to media brainwashing if it's against us. There were literally black people in the 80s and 90s who rallied against this type of stuff but it was other black people who pushed back against it.
I definitely see your point, but I do think it's oversimplifying the phenomena. I totally agree we shouldn't give anyone a pass to use the word, and in my circle we don't use the word at all, but I have consumed music and laughed at comedy that uses the word among Black people, so it feels hypocritical to be so judgmental of the use of the word when I still consume products that do.
 

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Did you forget about that den do nufiin fourchan bullshyt

I think you missed my point… racist white people are going to think the worst of us … If you’re brought here from a ship or from the diaspora

Bottom line is, I don’t think that stop using or referring to black people as nikkas is going change anything
The bottomline is that you don't have to demoralize yourself. Racists are going to say and do racist things that doesn't mean you have to refer to yourself and others with those same derogatory terms they use. I've been cutting back on my use of it but I rarely use it in real life anymore but I've slipped up a few times on here lol
 
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I definitely see your point, but I do think it's oversimplifying the phenomena. I totally agree we shouldn't give anyone a pass to use the word, and in my circle we don't use the word at all, but I have consumed music and laughed at comedy that uses the word among Black people, so it feels hypocritical to be so judgmental of the use of the word when I still consume products that do.
You are still a person living in society where the word is normalized. You can't listen to rap or black comedy without hearing it.
Just because you live in capitalism doesn't mean you can't point out the issues that come from it.
 
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