These 2 shots Kobe Made over Lebron :wow:

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

I find it ironic how for supposedly always being carried lebron is 3/3 fmvps while kobe's 2/5

2-1 after Shaq vs 3-4 as the man and one of those 4 goes down as one of the most individual choke hives known to man that spawn countless 4 quarter memes and jokes universally. Wade bosh kyrie love and 2 out of the 4 are more HOF than pau gasol couldn't become a man until running to pat Riley Kobe was his own man even with Shaq which is why he didn't take no shyt from him.

 

[Mad Good Dro]

2-1 after Shaq vs 3-4 as the man with Wade bosh kyrie love and 2 out of the 4 are more HOF than pau gasol couldn't become a man until running to pat Riley Kobe was his own man even with Shaq which is why he didn't take no shyt from him.

Kobe was such a man he refused to sign with any team that drafted him and forced his way to the lakers

Kobe's team was so stacked he didn't even start untill his third year in the league

Think about it, kobe only won 3 rings with 8 years of prime shaq

Lebron won at a higher rate with less years vs tougher finals competition

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Kobe was such a man he refused to sign with any team that drafted him and forced his way to the lakers

Kobe's team was so stacked he didn't even start untill his third year in the league

Think about it, kobe only won 3 rings with 8 years of prime shaq

Lebron won at a higher rate with less years vs tougher finals competition

An experienced thunder team and and choke from the Spurs one only legit win his whole career. If lebron at 20-23 years old was on those lakers he'd be "carried" by Shaq just like say Kobe was. Kobe at 23 scored 25 on 50% while 23 lebron at the same age scored 22 on 35%. Than 18 in the most epic choke job know to man at 28 Kobe around that age never had one series where he was scared to take shots over a bunch of nikkas smaller than him. His worst series against the pistons was better than lebrons worst A stacked lakers won 5. Lebron with 2 HOF is 2-2 and two other superstars he has now he's 1-0. I'll be nice and not include that ass whooping he took by himself in 2015. Won at a higher rate? He didn't win one till he was almost 30 against a bunch of lil ninjas named Kevin Durant and russel Westbrook who both were like 23 at the time while he Wade and bosh were approaching the big 3 celtics ages at the start of the decade

 

[Bilz]

In the overlap of their careers, LeBron was in the finals 7 times and Kobe was there 4 times.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Deez nuts>>>>>in yo mama

The most response I have ever seen on this site..

You are incensed at this reality

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

The most response I have ever seen on this site..

You are incensed at this reality

Incensed deez nuts

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Lebron is better then Kobe in every single metric..

This drives these Kobe dikk riders insane






























Even with Kobe having 5 rings

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Lebron is better then Kobe in every single metric..

This drives these Kobe dikk riders insane

Metric these nuts 2-1 without Shaq vs 2-2 with Wade and bosh. 5-2 with Shaq vs 3-4 with Wade bosh kyrie love and flabby shaq. 81, 62 three quarters. That's my mamba

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If Kobe wasn't the one getting killed by Lebron in those matchups, then why didn't he switch onto him? Somebody needed help!

And if Lebron wasn't the one stopping Kobe over and over again, then who was? Delonte West? Anthony Parker? Larry Hughes?


The funniest part about this is that Kobe actually had a variety of decent defensive wings to help out on Lebron (Metta World Peace, Trevor Ariza, Matt Barnes, Lamar Odom, plus Bynum protecting the rim), while Lebron never had good defensive help that could match up well on Kobe, and Lebron still killed Kobe in the head-to-head.

The regular season is not the finals.

But Kobe's stats in the Finals suck compared to Lebron's too.

Lebron's two bad Finals were against elite, well-coached zone defenses that packed the paint and focused everything on stopping Lebron. It wasn't "choking", he had fantastic performances in big moments against great defensive teams like the Pistons, Celtics, and Magic, who played more traditional defenses. He just hadn't developed the skills yet to beat a smart zone with the right personnel.

Lakers never played that kind of zone defense, which is why he always ran circles around whoever was guarding him. They would have looked just like the Pistons/Magic/Celtics did, not the Spurs/Mavs.

Kobe dropped 30 on the same magic and a celtics team lebron couldn't beat without the help of Wade and bosh, held a tv special to leave Cleveland and then choke his way through 6 games but he beating the lakers 3 times within 2008 to 2010 when he couldn't get past the celtics? Regular season isn't the playoffs or finals.

In 2008, Lebron took the Celtics to 7 and scored 45 in barely losing. 27-6-8 on 36%, got better as the series went on (45% in last 3 games).
In 2008, Kobe got blown out by 40 by the Celtics in 6 with Kobe disappearing. 25-5-5 on 41% shooting, got worse as the series went on (34% in last 3 games).

In 2010, Lebron lost to the Celtics in 6 despite averaging 27-9-7 on 45% shooting.
In 2010, Kobe's Lakers beat the Celtics in 7 (after Perkins got hurt) with Kobe averaging 28-8-4 on 41% shooting

In all of the 2008-2010 playoffs combined, Kobe won exactly ONE more game against the Celtics than Lebron did, and you're acting like it was this narrative of complete Kobe dominance.


The Cavs couldn't get past the Celtics because they literally had no one who could D up Garnett, Pierce, Ray, or Rondo except Lebron, and Lebron can only guard one guy at a time. Lakers had Gasol, Odom, and MWP as three guys who could guard tall forwards/wings, while Cavs were trying to guard Garnett with Varejao and Pierce/Ray/Rondo (whichever two Lebron wasn't on) with some combination of freaking Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, and the mentally ill shell of Delonte West.

The Cavs couldn't get past the Magic because, once again, no one on the Cavs could guard Dwight at all (while the Lakers had both Bynum and Gasol as big bodies down low), and Lebron was literally the only guy who could match up on Rashard Lewis, Turkoglu, or Pietrus. Varejao wasn't mobile enough to get to Lewis on the perimeter, and Cavs had 6'2" Boobie, 6'1" Mo, and 6'3" Delonte to match up against a bunch of Magic perimeter players that were 6'6" to 6'10".



On the other hand, in a Lakers/Cavs matchup Lebron could guard Kobe, Varejao could at least reasonably guard Gasol (at least not be overpowered to the same degree as he was against Dwight and Garnett), and no one else on the Lakers could take advantage of the Cavs' shortcomings on one-on-one defense. The Lakers had neither a PG nor a Center who was elite enough on offense at that point to exploit the Cavs' shortcomings in those areas, and they didn't have the multiple dangerous tall wings to exploit their lack of guard height.

The Lakers were literally the perfect team to fail to take advantage of the Cavs shortcomings (skinny post players and

I kant take you that much serious anyways. You the same one who swears you would beat a bunch of white dudes that would run you off the court in the 50s

Kobestan still thinks it's a game-changer to prop up short, non-athletic White guys in the 1950s who couldn't dribble or shoot.

 

[Bini Knight]

LeBron played in a terrible EAST his whole career. that's an asterisk on his resume
Needed Ray Allen to bail him out in Game 6 (LeBron had 3 turnovers in final 2 minutes of that game, would've been a legendary choke job)
Needed Kyrie to take all the huge shots in the 2015 Finals

 

[Professor Emeritus]

2-1 after Shaq vs 3-4 as the man

The sad part about this is that Kobestans are so ignorant, they actually believe that making 7 Finals and winning 3 is worse than only making 3 and only winning 2.


2-1 is MUCH worse than 3-4, because when you're 2-1, it means you lost EARLIER.

Watch them argue that Hakeem is better than Kareem because Hakeem went 2-1 in Finals while Kareem was only 5-4. Or Isaiah better than Magic for the same reason. I guess Dirk's 1-1 in Finals is better than Wilt's 2-5?

 

[Bilz]

2-1 after Shaq vs 3-4 as the man and one of those 4 goes down as one of the most individual choke hives known to man that spawn countless 4 quarter memes and jokes universally. Wade bosh kyrie love and 2 out of the 4 are more HOF than pau gasol couldn't become a man until running to pat Riley Kobe was his own man even with Shaq which is why he didn't take no shyt from him.

Imagine a team with LeBron as its second best player. How is that team losing to anyone?

LeBron was giving the Lakers that work with an extremely version of Shaq. A young LeBron with a prime Shaq would have been devastating.

 

[CantStop]

Kobe won all his rings against the "worst conference of all time". Bron won his by beating 2 of the best teams of all time.

This makes no sense. You realize Kobe had to go through 50 wins teams from the first round to WCF on a yearly basis while Bron saved his energy to face that western conference team in the finals and still has a losing record?

 

[madness]

please, put Kobe on a super team for 7-8 years in the worst conference of all time, and he would get more rings than LeBron.

Right. At most Kobe had Shaq and pau, unless you want to include an old Malone and Payton. Lebron has prime Wade,bosh kyrie and Kevin love. And he still 3 out of 8. Kobe is 2 out of 3 without Shaq.

Lebron beat a 73-win team in a series where he was down 3-1. And he did it to win a championship.

That feat easily eclipses anything Kobe did in his 20 seasons.

 

[boskey]

This makes no sense. You realize Kobe had to go through 50 wins teams from the first round to WCF on a yearly basis while Bron saved his energy to face that western conference team in the finals and still has a losing record?

Makes more sense than claiming Bron only won rings cuz he played in the East. You don't get rings for winning your conference. Bron faced much easier comp in the playoffs but saw much tougher comp in the finals when it mattered. Undeniable fact.

I never heard about a player having an advantage cuz he "saved his energy" in earlier rounds. That's new to me...