These incel and MGTOW brehs confuse me

[Roid Jones]

Wtf is an incel

I only see non black or cornbrothas

on here use that Word

Don't be fooled alot of black dudes on here are incels, they try to dress it up............if it looks like a duck and acts like a duck then......

 

[Roid Jones]

If all you do daily is sit around & cry about the other gender you deserve that L

Why you throwing shade @ 90% of the coli

 

[chosenaledge13]

This is what they are doing. So why are you attacking them?

Again, this is the week ass shyt I'm talking about. Attack

It's an attack to fragile egos.

They gotta form a fukkin mass movement to justify a personal decision. Something like this breeds aggression, especially something headed and for majority middle aged white men (you can't tell me that it isn't in reality breh, don't get it confused).

But you must be a cac with a name like African Peasant

 

[Roid Jones]

MGTOW is basically not letting America, a matriarchal society, Define what your worth, role, and responsibility is as a man.

For example:
Man approaches woman, Sparks interest, sets up date, makes her his girlfriend, continues to pay for dates, marries woman, impregnates woman, and takes care of her and her kids until he dies.

You may not be fully mgtow, but if you believe that there's anything wrong with any of what I listed, you are at least partly Mgtow.

There are a lot of men who Define their worth by their ability to do at least one of these things. Mgtow is about finding worth in yourself as opposed to finding your worth in what you can do for a woman, which is how much of America defines manhood.

Incels and the alt-right have pretty much invaded the movement though, and have altered what it means to be mgtow altogether

 

[Phitz]

This is exactly my point and why their logic/idea is completely flawed.

Let me give up a romantic relationship with women forever or children etc, there's no real reason to create a safety net has a man.
You can take has much risk as possible with no consequence of what happens.

I would never be home I can work all around the world, leaving influence around the entire world, really get to see the world from someone who has no-one holding you accountable outside of employees

They sit inside all day on cam sites, whining, go buy some box low life

The ones who can, do travel and/or move out of the country. They're big on that also. They're just tired of American/Western women and feminism.

 

[360dagod]

Again, this is the week ass shyt I'm talking about. Attack

It's an attack to fragile egos.

They gotta form a fukkin mass movement to justify a personal decision. Something like this breeds aggression, especially something headed and for majority middle aged white men (you can't tell me that it isn't in reality breh, don't get it confused).

But you must be a cac with a name like African Peasant

Its human nature to form bonds and brotherhoods/sisterhoods with people who think and went thru the same issues like you...

I actually agree with the fragile ego comment but not for that theory....

Comparing your 29 year old self in a relationship where you haven't put your chips on the line(marriage)is completely different than being your 40 year old self trying to date again after being wiped out in divorce court and/or paying alimony...

Simply put your chips on the table and tell your girl you ready to get married...

And I hope you and your relationship works out..

I don't wish bad on anyone to prove a point...

I just get why a man after being married for 20 years and getting divorced while losing assets he worked for is pretty much a mental wreck

 

[the bossman]

They're just tired of American/Western women and feminism.

That's right. American women are so toxic while the poor women who men love to trick on in 3rd world countries like DR or Thailand are so much better and more féminine #importgang !!

 

[philmonroe]

Facts. The foundation of the movement is much different than what it has become.

I'm MGTOW because I don't succumb to the pressure that others put on me to find a wife/gf/sex partner. I do me and I do pursue women, but I pursue the women I want, not the women I can get. If those two groups overlap one day, then cool, if they never do, then so be it.

I have nothing against women in general. Both women and men have their own flaws, and their redeeming qualities as well. That's why I can't really align with what the movement has become (that and it turning into racist alt-right group).

I think the thing that's like what is folks claiming stuff like this when this is most people anyway. All the things you said are things I do but I don't claim no mgtow. That part seems stupid to me.

 

[How Sway?]

How can you Expect guys that get no buns to level up and become better?

Esp in this over-sexed society where everybody is (seemingly )slamming azz everyday or or in relationships? The shyt is all over in the media, and yet you left to wallow in depression while you staying at your mom's basement that shyt can fukk ones brain up. And can even develop in to sexual deviancy and unhealthy views about women
It's downward spiral

 

[Deuterion]

i don't know about incels, but those MGTOW dudes just take shyt too far or it's attached to some alt-right type shyt. It's like you could agree with them on a base level but then there's a 2nd and 3rd level they go to and your like .

They be like...

Women win in divorce... and you’re like:

Child support and custody is a concerted to break up the family....and you’re like:

We need reform!...and you’re like:



...and we also need to get rid of all these immigrants taking our jobs and n1gg3rs on welfare.

 

[Larry Lambo]

I think the thing that's like what is folks claiming stuff like this when this is most people anyway. All the things you said are things I do but I don't claim no mgtow. That part seems stupid to me.

Most men don't have to continuously combat ridicule on a regular basis when it comes to their love life. Most men aren't having to tell their friends and family to stop pressuring them to find a woman (serious or casual). Most men aren't dealing with the "You need to stop being picky and get some ass" commentary from everyone in their circle.

How times has a dude gotten furious at you for turning down an opportunity to pursue a woman, even if you never complained about not pulling chicks? I've been damn near ready to fight after some of the disrespect I've gotten because what other men wanted me to do with my d**k.

I don't know any brehs that have to put up with that type of criticism, pressure, and hostility. There's no respect for a man's privacy, and a man is expected to communicate eventual success with the opposite sex (be it relationships or casual sex). You literally have to tell people that the topic is off limits and then they just end up mentioning it again, anyways.

So to be able to connect with a couple guys that are going through the same s**t and having to push others back and/or eliminate others from their life because of their stance on the pursuit dating/relationships, would be helpful. A "movement" might be a bit much, but this ain't no regular ish that most people deal with. Most people don't have issues that continue to damage their relationships with friends and family in that way.

There are some people that are chill, and let their friends and associates do them without ridicule. I've tried to focus on friendships with those type people. But a lot aren't and behave as if they have a personal problem with you not having a sex life. I have to avoid people like them, but it seems like it's the majority of dudes, these days. ​

 

[philmonroe]

Most men don't have to continuously combat ridicule on a regular basis when it comes to their love life. Most men aren't having to tell their friends and family to stop pressuring them to find a woman (serious or casual). Most men aren't dealing with the "You need to stop being picky and get some ass" commentary from everyone in their circle.

How times has a dude gotten furious at you for turning down an opportunity to pursue a woman, even if you never complained about not pulling chicks? I've been damn near ready to fight after some of the disrespect I've gotten because what other men wanted me to do with my d**k.

I don't know any brehs that have to put up with that type of criticism, pressure, and hostility. There's no respect for a man's privacy, and a man is expected to communicate eventual success with the opposite sex (be it relationships or casual sex). You literally have to tell people that the topic is off limits and then they just end up mentioning it again, anyways.

So to be able to connect with a couple guys that are going through the same s**t and having to push others back and/or eliminate others from their life because of their stance on the pursuit dating/relationships, would be helpful. A "movement" might be a bit much, but this ain't no regular ish that most people deal with. Most people don't have issues that continue to damage their relationships with friends and family in that way.

There are some people that are chill, and let their friends and associates do them without ridicule. I've tried to focus on friendships with those type people. But a lot aren't and behave as if they have a personal problem with you not having a sex life. I have to avoid people like them, but it seems like it's the majority of dudes, these days. ​

I've actually never really had dudes furious at me for turning down girls lol. They might make jokes about it but that's normal friend stuff in my circle. I don't know you but maybe you aren't getting girls like you claim and they know that and are trying to get you get some ass. I just don't see folks hype over you turning down a chick if your known for getting girls at least in my crew.

Maybe you just need to roll with a new crew and it seems like you're trying because it seems like they make you feel some type of way. I just don't get the name mgtow but I understand why you'd want dudes that fit more with your style on certain issues.

 

[Dameon Farrow]

What is MGTOW?

Also no one is incel by choice dawg.

 

[chosenaledge13]

Its human nature to form bonds and brotherhoods/sisterhoods with people who think and went thru the same issues like you...

I actually agree with the fragile ego comment but not for that theory....

Comparing your 29 year old self in a relationship where you haven't put your chips on the line(marriage)is completely different than being your 40 year old self trying to date again after being wiped out in divorce court and/or paying alimony...

Simply put your chips on the table and tell your girl you ready to get married...

And I hope you and your relationship works out..

I don't wish bad on anyone to prove a point...

I just get why a man after being married for 20 years and getting divorced while losing assets he worked for is pretty much a mental wreck

I see what you're saying, I guess I'm coming from the standpoint where I've never understood not handling your own shyt. Been with my girl 13 yrs btw, we never really tripped of the contractual part of marriage along with the pressure from family so we decided to do our own thing. Again, I made a choice a long time ago to be with someone in line with my perspective, and the work is making sure there is no bullshyt there, which is the real work in a relationship.

So yeah, my chips stay on the table because I dont sugar coat anything for p*ssy, or strictly companionship breh.

Not judging the guys that deal with the fukked up women that take advantage, but I'll never be with the pack mentality and labels to judge an entire gender because of the lack of responsibility as a human being for dealing with your own shyt.

 

[Larry Lambo]

I've actually never really had dudes furious at me for turning down girls lol. They might make jokes about it but that's normal friend stuff in my circle. I don't know you but maybe you aren't getting girls like you claim and they know that and are trying to get you get some ass. I just don't see folks hype over you turning down a chick if your known for getting girls at least in my crew.

Maybe you just need to roll with a new crew and it seems like you're trying because it seems like they make you feel some type of way. I just don't get the name mgtow but I understand why you'd want dudes that fit more with your style on certain issues.

Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not getting girls consistently and haven't for a long time. I have a decent number of total lifetime bodies because of two different spurts of about 1-2 years where my standards were lower than they are now. The majority of my life I've struggled to pull women and I'm 39 so it's been a while.

And it's been several guys over the course of the years. I don't have one crew of friends that I've rolled with my entire life. It's been different crews and every crew has one or two dudes that get pushy about me not getting laid. I push back but ultimately the hostility becomes too much and I just move on to new set of folks. The family pressure started in my early/mid 30's, and I've recently told them to drop the subject. But extended family always harasses me about it.

But yes I've had at least 5 different dudes in my life that were legit heated/pissed about me turning down opportunities with women. This is beyond jokes, and is true hostility and anger. The most recent one is about to get cut off. I told him that I'm not concerned about it and he shouldn't be either, but he's acting like b**ch about it. He can't contemplate that maybe I'm not pressed to find a chick and don't need pu**y to be happy. I actually was messing with a chick earlier this year, and have been on several dates since, but never told him because it's really none of his business anyways. But it shouldn't matter, there's been times where I've gone a very long time without sex. Why does that compel men to be so disrespectful to each other? It's not an isolated thing. This is how a lot of men are.