These lil nikkas have no respect for the history of the genre

[NotaPAWG]

I think there is a team of ghostwriters for 95% of rappers nowadays, if it ain't pouring drank of popping molly its about fukking your bytch and stacking money.

There literally is no definition between rappers.

And yes, I do sound but tell me I ain't right

You're not right. These new rappers are poppin pills, sipping lean etc etc. it's what they're doing so it's what they're rapping about. the content is way less intellectual and the bars are no where near the 90s and 00s but it's not much different than what 90s rappers were rapping about. A lot of them were flexing on about money, their clothes, selling drugs (now they rap about doing drugs and selling it) with some struggle thrown in and intellectualism. BIG's n*ggas bleed was just story telling about robbing some dudes and how anyone can get got and he wasn't scared. Now, rappers just rapping about robbing the plug lol way more basically with little to no lyricism or bars.

Early Das Efx was kicking basic shyt between their notorious style (until they got pressured). Not much different than the new generation.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Oh and Gg allin is trash. Don't care about his music But he was never a rock star. More like wanna be rock start that was a piece of shyt punk rock dude who raped females and treated people like trash. And did outrageous shyt for attention.

You think he was the only rock n roll cac that raped? That's part of being a rock star... a piece of drug addicted white trash screaming angst into a microphone over distorted guitar, double helicopter bass, and thrash drums.

 

[NotaPAWG]

You think he was the only rock n roll cac that raped? That's part of being a rock star... a piece of drug addicted white trash screaming angst into a microphone over distorted guitar, double helicopter bass, and thrash drums.

I know that. I'm in that sub genre of music. Lots of pieces of shyt just like in any other sub genre. But he wasn't a rock star. He was a wanna be punk dude.

When I think of rock star I think of like Kiss or some shyt. Not a guy playing hole in the wall disgusting venues for 100 bucks.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

All of that is applicable to just about any beat unless it's very specifically structured (i.e. with an intrusive overlaying sample like "Oh Boy"). I understand what you're trying to say but in reality you can write just as lazily over a boom bap beat as you can over a trap beat. The reverse is true as well, you can write just as intricately over a trap beat as you can over a boom bap beat. If anything, most trap beats taper down the melody to allow the vocalist MORE space/fluctuation in their delivery, monotony doesn't do those beats justice. More to the point melodic boom bap beats sometimes call for monotone delivery... If you're fighting with the melody it's not very likely to result in good music.

It's more about the melody so the melody is training wheels for a nikka using multiple plug ins to "float" (fakkit term for being lazy and riding the melody), while the bass, hi hats, and snares do everything a rapper should be doing...In place of rhyme patterns, you have fake flows...when you read the rap over again, a lot of shyt wouldn't sound good without the beat, whereas a lot of boom bap rappers sound good rhyming acapella. They're wholly dependent on that style of production and studio magic in general. None of these lil nikkas would stand out without it.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

It's more about the melody so the melody is training wheels for a nikka using multiple plug ins to "float" (fakkit term for being lazy and riding the melody), while the bass, hi hats, and snares do everything a rapper should be doing...In place of rhyme patterns, you have fake flows...when you read the rap over again, a lot of shyt wouldn't sound good without the beat, whereas a lot of boom bap rappers sound good rhyming acapella. They're wholly dependent on that style of production and studio magic in general. None of these lil nikkas would stand out without it.

While there is a growing subgenre of neotrap rappers who depend on studio magic as you called it, it's still a function of the lazy writing. They're more vocally driven than lyrically driven, they never had the intention of being recognized for their penmanship.

Other rappers in the trap genre obviously want their penmanship to be respected. Not all of them, but enough of them where the argument about trap rap being inherently less lyrical doesn't really hold water.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

While there is a growing subgenre of neotrap rappers who depend on studio magic as you called it, it's still a function of the lazy writing. They're more vocally driven than lyrically driven, they never had the intention of being recognized for their penmanship.

Other rappers in the trap genre obviously want their penmanship to be respected. Not all of them, but enough of them where the argument about trap rap being inherently less lyrical doesn't really hold water.

I didn't make that argument, I'm speaking on Vert and his contemporaries. Not anybody like Pizzle or others who can spit BARS on a trap beat and switch real flows...Shout outs to Los...

 

[Infamous45]

GG allin is a rockstar in every sense of the word.

also a racist degenerate as well.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

also a racist degenerate as well.

I'm not a fan of him. Most crust punks and pieces of shyt like that are racist. Most rock stars are racist drug addicts...he is the crack to their powder.

 

[Art Barr]

Lol you ever actually rapped before? You think it's harder to ride a boom bap beat?

nikkaz don't rap well over any break, in any age bracket in general.
So, they all get exposed skillwise in general, as far as I am concerned.


Art Barr

 

[KEEPITTRILLA]

old heads always trying to hold on to the past, i dunno why everyones so proud of being out of touch. let uzi like what he likes he make more fire today than 90% of the rappers from the 90s that still rap today do

 

[Jacaveli The Don]

You're not right. These new rappers are poppin pills, sipping lean etc etc. it's what they're doing so it's what they're rapping about. the content is way less intellectual and the bars are no where near the 90s and 00s but it's not much different than what 90s rappers were rapping about. A lot of them were flexing on about money, their clothes, selling drugs (now they rap about doing drugs and selling it) with some struggle thrown in and intellectualism. BIG's n*ggas bleed was just story telling about robbing some dudes and how anyone can get got and he wasn't scared. Now, rappers just rapping about robbing the plug lol way more basically with little to no lyricism or bars.

Early Das Efx was kicking basic shyt between their notorious style (until they got pressured). Not much different than the new generation.

You say the content is way less intellectual now like that is OK, my dude, that is a BIG problem. Also, you mention the bars are nowhere near the '90s and the '00s and there were rappers then who weren't saying much and you mentioned Das Efx, but how unique were Das Efx?

Also, every rapper had there own flavour. I look at rap from the '90s the same way I look at wrestling from the '90s (terrible analogy, I know) but back then everyone looked and sounded different. Know why? Because they put their own stamp and style on what they were creating.

You could never mistake Nas for Snoop Dogg, because their styles were/are so different.

TL:DR '90s rappers had their own style which they created/developed while '10s rappers are interchangeable.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

I didn't make that argument, I'm speaking on Vert and his contemporaries. Not anybody like Pizzle or others who can spit BARS on a trap beat and switch real flows...Shout outs to Los...

Even within Vert's subset of trap though a lot of them are actually creating the melodies. Also a lot of the beats they rap over have very little melody and place the melody or lack thereof on the vocalist. For example:



I'm not disagreeing with your point, I disagree with the idea that trap beats are somehow "easier" to conceptualize a rap song over.

 

[Black_Panther_JS]

There's literally no rapper under 30 that has anything useful to say in their lyrics.

Mick Jenkins, Chance The Rapper, Saba, Vince Staple, Ab-Soul, Joey Bada$$, Capital STEEZ and Kendrick Lamar

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

You say the content is way less intellectual now like that is OK, my dude, that is a BIG problem. Also, you mention the bars are nowhere near the '90s and the '00s and there were rappers then who weren't saying much and you mentioned Das Efx, but how unique were Das Efx?

Also, every rapper had there own flavour. I look at rap from the '90s the same way I look at wrestling from the '90s (terrible analogy, I know) but back then everyone looked and sounded different. Know why? Because they put their own stamp and style on what they were creating.

You could never mistake Nas for Snoop Dogg, because their styles were/are so different.

TL:DR '90s rappers had their own style which they created/developed while '10s rappers are interchangeable.

Literally nonsensical. If your only source of rap music is mainstream media outlets like Noisey I could see how you'd think that, otherwise...

 

[Jacaveli The Don]

Literally nonsensical. If your only source of rap music is mainstream media outlets like Noisey I could see how you'd think that, otherwise...

fukk Noisey

And if your going to quote me, post up a reason. Dont take the easy route and talk slick