These lil nikkas have no respect for the history of the genre

[TEKBEATZ]

Damn that rap was terrible.

 

[Ellen Degeneres]

I'm surprised Trap rappers haven't formally broken away from traditional hip hop and stopped calling themselves rappers.

This shyt happened decades ago my man.

"I'm not a rapper, I'm a trapper"
"I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler"

It's legends who said that. Everyone catches flack for saying that, but that's really what Uzi did here saying he's not a rapper, he's a rockstar. Whether he wants it or not, he's also playing into a tradition in the game. Premier beats are far away from his lane.

Why some of you sound 70 years old talking about the youth is ruined?

 

[Wild self]

I'm surprised Trap rappers haven't formally broken away from traditional hip hop and stopped calling themselves rappers.

They want that respect of a true MC, without the quality. They should have their own genre.

 

[spliz]

I don't disagree with your bottom line. But dig -

I'm not even a rapper - but if a nicca put on the muthafuccin' Who's The Boss theme song, imma rock that muthafuccin' chit -
just so fools can know i'm ill like that.

We from that era of microphone fiends. To paraphrase Cam, we don't gotta do this chit, we just do because we nice.
I can't fathom how a dude who gets to do it for a living doesn't have the fervor.

Basically! shyt I can imagine Cam goin up there. Them putting on "The Breaks". Him tellin the DJ. "Slow that shyt down a lil bit fam" and him proceed to body that shyt and put it on his mixtape. Lol

 

[Deutsche Bank]

sound like a bunch of old ass nikkas complaining in this thread. Luv is Rage

nikka that shyt is terrible.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

I don't disagree with your bottom line. But dig -

I'm not even a rapper - but if a nicca put on the muthafuccin' Who's The Boss theme song, imma rock that muthafuccin' chit -
just so fools can know i'm ill like that.

We from that era of microphone fiends. To paraphrase Cam, we don't gotta do this chit, we just do because we nice.
I can't fathom how a dude who gets to do it for a living doesn't have the fervor.

Yup, the media conflates a lot of shyt within the confines of "rap" now though the same way a lot of music gets conflated under the label of "R&B". The genre ceased to define itself in the mainstream media a while ago.

With that in mind, the impetus is on the listeners and fans of rap to follow and support artists they identify as actually making genre music.

 

[yardman]

Fvck this garbage ass lil n!gga

But that beat banging tho

 

[yardman]

Ok that's it, im gettin in the booth.

If these Courage the Cowardly Dog soundin ass nikkas can make it, so can I.

 

[JarrodG]

Brehs I am 25 and I am already considered an ol' head...wtf

 

[JuvenileHell]

he's a rockstar

That's the bytch I want
So real and vulnerable

Lil Uzi WOAT

 

[NotaPAWG]

what i posted in the other thread:

"he and Vince Staples clearly don't GAF about old school sensibilities...

it would be easy to play the "they have no respect" card but the sound they're shytting on (90s NY Hip-Hop) is the most entitled, "fukk that shyt over there we what's hot" era ever, so it's kind of fitting. not necessarily right or wrong, but poetic justice."

90s boom bappers never shytted on the golden era before them, but as far as their contemporaries from different regions, they were kind of haters to be haters. i think it had a lot to do with the competitive nature of being the best lyricist, which a lot of new kids don't get caught up in. either way they barely liked each other lol, and they were also averse to the south's rise at the start of the 00's.

older boom bap artists have just now stopped shytting on the new generation. guess they realized there's nothing they can do to change the circumstance. the fans of that era still keep the "real hip-hop" argument a relevant talking point, so it's natural for these kids to feel a way about that.

i'm not a huge fan of many of these dudes, but i think i understand where they're coming from. if people keep pitting you against a certain sound, saying you're inferior if you don't emulate that skillset, you're gonna resent it and lash out. you can't keep dismissing the kids then be mad how they clap back. he went a little OD trying to shyt on Primo's craft with the "it's just drums and nothing else," but i understand his sentiment of not wanting to rap over it.

This is exactly what I feel/think but couldn't put into words. People itt are only seeing it from our perspective and not being objective about the new generation

 

[mbewane]

We reached such heights within the genre that we were bound to come down. I think we really took MCs like Nas, Pac, Big, Scarface, Meth, P and all them for granted.

Anyway even in the 90s you would regularly have top notch MC pay homage to the elders. They didn't HAVE to, and they were all out to be the best. Whether it was sampling or Snoop doing Lodi Dodi or the Vapors for example. Difference is that they were confident enough in their own talent to pick up the torch and move the genre further. I think deep down a lot of these new rappers (not all) know damn well they don't have the skills so they gotta to go in a whole different direction and try to discard whatever came before. I doubt Jay, Rae or any other top 90s MC ever said anything disrespectful about older rappers : they didn't have to in order to assert themselves.

 

[TEH]

This shyt happened decades ago my man.

"I'm not a rapper, I'm a trapper"
"I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler"

Everyone catches flack for saying that, but that's really what Uzi did here saying he's not a rapper, he's a rockstar. Whether he wants it or not, he's also playing into a tradition in the game. Premier beats are far away from his lane.

Why some of you sound 70 years old talking about the youth is ruined?

That is not formally breaking away. I said formally break away. Like refuse to let others call you rappers or refuse to be classified under rap/hip hop by streaming companies, record labels or media outlets etc. Until they have the balls to officially break away from hip hop we have the right to critique them as being sub par rappers.

Plus no one is sounding 70 years old by saying his shyt is trash. I listen to new artists and I'm definitely not impressed - at all.

 

[Taadow]

Premier beats are far away from his lane.

See this is where I gotta disagree. Premier beats are a barometer - one of many - in the rap game.
If you can rock over one of them, people know you ain't bullchittin' with your art.

There was a time when people might have said Death Row's "lane" isn't Premier beats.
But when you're really about your rappin', you'll accept (even welcome) those types of challenges;
that's to prove "I can do me - but I can do YOUR chit, too..."

 

[Biscayne]

I like trap music and alot of new artist, but there's definitely been an over-saturation of the post-Future, "Money, drugs, hoes, clothes, party" trap rappers in the last 5yrs. Not only Future clones, but alot of Lil B "Stream of consciousness" flow rappers and alot of ASAP Clones.

Vice and Noisey loves promoting every and any rapper who does trap, points guns at a cam, and has eccentric hairstyles. Like another poster said, they're clones of clones. Lil Uzi Vert would've had me like "This guy is kinda out there, and that's kinda cool" if he came out 5yrs ago(that's how I reacted when I 1st heard ASAP). But in 2016, he sounds and looks like everyone else.

I feel like Trap music has jumped the shark, the same way 20yrs ago by 1996 G-Funk, Mafioso Rap, and other 90's genres were starting to jump the shark and ran their course. There's gotta be something else out there in 2016...