These women on FOX are evil

[tmonster]

 

[TLOL is back]

the only facts are that israel is guilty of numerous war crimes that they wont be brought up to face.

Actually, that is an opinion.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Well, sometimes talking points are facts that others failed to argue against. It sounded like he was the one regurgitating talking points. Saying that Israel fired indiscriminately (statistically highly improbable).

When you repeat "Israel has the right to defend itself" that goes without saying.

Obviously Israel has a right to defend its self but killing 1600+ civilians hardly sounds like a "defensive" mechanism.

Then when Geraldo mentions the children being killed Andrea responds "who's fault is that?"

 

[TLOL is back]

When you repeat "Israel has the right to defend itself" that goes without saying.

It doesn't, since many people disagree.

Obviously Israel has a right to defend its self but killing 1600+ civilians hardly sounds like a "defensive" mechanism.

Yes, I agree that it doesn't sound like one. However, it is one as long as rockets fly into Israel and Hamas is hiding among those civilians.

Side-note: Your numbers (and the UN's numbers) are Hamas numbers and rely solely on Hamas sources.

Then when Geraldo mentions the children being killed Andrea responds "who's fault is that?"

How is that not a valid question? The amount of children killed in itself is an emotional argument if it is not placed within the context of how they were killed and under what circumstances.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

It doesn't, since many people disagree.

Reiteration: Most rational people feel Israel has a right to defend itself.

Yes, I agree that it doesn't sound like one. However, it is one as long as rockets fly into Israel and Hamas is hiding among those civilians.

Ah, so when a fringe radical terrorist group attacks then EVERYONE has to pay...gotcha..totally justifiable.

Side-note: Your numbers (and the UN's numbers) are Hamas numbers and rely solely on Hamas sources.

The source seem legitimate enough for everyone else to take accept them as a fair estimate.

How is that not a valid question? The amount of children killed in itself is an emotional argument if it is not placed within the context of how they were killed and under what circumstances.

It may have been an emotional statement but it is also a factual statement. Her retort was simplistic, close-minded, and ignorant.

If Hamas shoots missiles into Israel killing hundreds innocent babies and children can we respond by just saying "Who's fault is that?"

 

[MushroomX]

Eh. They are controlled by Rupert Murdoch, and basically once you get too liberal or begin to lose your looks, they take you behind the buildings to be shot.

 

[newarkhiphop]

bad indeed friend

 

[Kritic]

Eh. They are controlled by Rupert Murdoch, and basically once you get too liberal or begin to lose your looks, they take you behind the buildings to be shot.

what about the geraldo problem...

 

[MushroomX]

what about the geraldo problem...

He is designated "Mexican" ethnic reporter, there probably are others though that could take over for him, but Geraldo has that shelf life to him that old people can relate too. In time he will be taken out.

 

[Kritic]

He is designated "Mexican" ethnic reporter, there probably are others though that could take over for him, but Geraldo has that shelf life to him that old people can relate too. In time he will be taken out.

but he's part jewish.. he can't be taken out. that jewish connect is what got him on in the first place..

 

[MushroomX]

but he's part jewish.. he can't be taken out. that jewish connect is what got him on in the first place..

For now Fox's ratings are slipping because the core audience is dying each year. Not to mention their base is getting to the extremes, forcing moderate republicans to jump, so they either go soft or follow the trend.

 

[Gains]

what about the geraldo problem...

he's still pretty yellow



listen to attractive talking heads brehs

 

[Serious]

The women are stating facts, Geraldo is stating his emotions.

And that alone is the difference between those who support the Palestinians (emotional) and those who support Israel (logical).

"And you are not moved by that??" He asks. Emotions galore. Logic, not even once.

Yo seriously which think tank do you work for....

 

[Broke Wave]

@TLOL is back how are ya, man? After I handed you your ass in that settlement legality debate I hadn't seen you around. I'm glad you're here to test your talking points on me so you can run back to whoever you work for and try a new angle. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a new angle in the settlement debate

 

[TLOL is back]

Reiteration: Most rational people feel Israel has a right to defend itself.

And most people are not rational so...

Ah, so when a fringe radical terrorist group attacks then EVERYONE has to pay...gotcha..totally justifiable.

No, when the alternative is let rockets reign down on your civilians, then it is justifiable.

So basically your stance is "Israel has the right to defend itself, as long as it incurs 0 casualties" ? Yeah breh, you can place yourself with the group that does not believe Israel has the right to defend itself, since you are condemning it for not achieving the impossible.

The source seem legitimate enough for everyone else to take accept them as a fair estimate.

So.... You think a radical terrorist group is legitimate enough?

It may have been an emotional statement but it is also a factual statement. Her retort was simplistic, close-minded, and ignorant.

If Hamas shoots missiles into Israel killing hundreds innocent babies and children can we respond by just saying "Who's fault is that?"

If the IDF was placing the babies in front of them the appropriate reaction would be to blame the IDF. If IDF was launching rockets from kindergartens, and Hamas used a radar to track those rockets, the appropriate response is to blame the IDF.

And that is exactly what you would do, if that is how it went down.