They tryna come for Dave Chapelle

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

i'll be that dinosaur.

i don't hear nobody say "oh you use nikka in 2021" tho right. nothing hateful about saying men are not women and men who rape by deception will die. both are factual statements

Straight men who don't entertain transgender women aren't transphobic, just like men or women who don't entertain trans or homo aren't trans/homo phobic

But if you want to preach this hate shyt and defend it, go ahead but don't be crying, when you get push back from it talking that dumb shyt like "it's just a difference of opinion"

Also using "trannies" in 2021, you are a straight dinosaur

 

[keond]

Dave's entire argument falls apart the moment you take into account that Black Trans women life expectancy is only 35yrs old. That is the lowest of any in the country. I don't think he should be cancelled but he should sit down and talk to them the same way he talked to his trans friend that killed herself. He's wrong about this and those of you crying about empathy being a two way street need to look in the mirror and grow up so you can recognize the irony of what you're co-signing.

Thats a bullshyt stat that has been debunked.

Quite frankly this trans shyt is overblown because it aint even that many of them to warrant as much attention as they do

 

[DeadandGone14]

Seems like the LGBTQ armed forces have come out in full press mode in this thread. Interesting since they are usually in the shadows...

 

[Maximus Rex]

i'll be that dinosaur.

i don't hear nobody say "oh you use nikka in 2021" tho right. nothing hateful about saying men are not women and men who rape by deception will die. both are factual statements

Be it and you don't hear anybody complaining about nikka because it's accepted, don't try and twist it by saying well "we accept this word therefore this other group should accept us calling them that world", shyt is lazy and dumb

 

[The_Sheff]

Dave's entire argument falls apart the moment you take into account that Black Trans women life expectancy is only 35yrs old. That is the lowest of any in the country. I don't think he should be cancelled but he should sit down and talk to them the same way he talked to his trans friend that killed herself. He's wrong about this and those of you crying about empathy being a two way street need to look in the mirror and grow up so you can recognize the irony of what you're co-signing.

Nobody can still say exactly WTF Dave is saying that is supposedly shortening the life span of black trans folks or causing them harm. He got gender and sex confused, that shyt is taking 35 years off someone's life? Whether your gender determines you were born with a dikk or your sex determines you were born with a dikk, either way at the end of the day you were born with a dikk. Who cares what bucket it falls under.

Its like the whole race/ethnicity thing. People get that shyt confused all the time, and at the end of the day it really dont amount to anything most of the time. It only comes up when someone trying to win an argument on social media.

 

[Lord_nikon]

Dave's entire argument falls apart the moment you take into account that Black Trans women life expectancy is only 35yrs old. That is the lowest of any in the country. I don't think he should be cancelled but he should sit down and talk to them the same way he talked to his trans friend that killed herself. He's wrong about this and those of you crying about empathy being a two way street need to look in the mirror and grow up so you can recognize the irony of what you're co-signing.

Whats going with that,,are you saying that most black trans women are sex workers or lie about being trans to men and get killed by dl dudes ??


Nevertheless i have no issues with trans

 

[Stone]

You're not reading and you're putting words in my mouth. "So basically" is intellectually lazy

It's not about what I want. I just said that.

Everyone exists in the game of black and white. Including the black gays you're trying to defend. You can be whatever you want but when you're trying to sit at the table with white people understand that THEY want you to be black first, and are gonna deal with you accordingly.

In that framework you're non of the preceding adjectives you stack on yourself in attempt to erase that fact. So bring that "So you want them to be black first?" shyt to them

“We’re all Clifford”

 

[Stone]

Nobody can still say exactly WTF Dave is saying that is supposedly shortening the life span of black trans folks or causing them harm. He got gender and sex confused, that shyt is taking 35 years off someone's life? Whether your gender determines you were born with a dikk or your sex determines you were born with a dikk, either way at the end of the day you were born with a dikk. Who cares what bucket it falls under.

Its like the whole race/ethnicity thing. People get that shyt confused all the time, and at the end of the day it really dont amount to anything most of the time. It only comes up when someone trying to win an argument on social media.

The idea is that the jokes themselves embolden people to continue to perpetuate the hate against them. Kind of a shaky argument imo as there are plenty of people who might find Dave’s special funny who aren’t gonna go out and find a trans person to kill, but whatever

 

[GoldenGlove]

We literally have a group of people challenging health and science. So that's already happening here's the thing about Transpeople they're literally hurting no one. Anti vaxxers, and religious people are constantly hurting people on a daily basis and trying to force their beliefs on others. Trans people are far better humans based on that alone.

Nah.

Something as straight-forward as 1-2-3-4-5 etc is on par with a human being born with a dikk or a vagina. It's not complex.

You are bringing up other topics that have a plethora of variables and history behind them that garner challenging/questioning. BioTech, Big Pharma and government specifically are areas that have always been controversial subjects, it's not about challenging health and science... people are challenging motive and intent from the companies and entities involved.

@ you acting like conspiracy theories and religion is comparable to people debating gender.

Man, stop it.

 

[Kaypain]

Who the fukk are they and why should I give a fukk?

And Dave already got paid for this shyt. He doesn't give a fukk either. His bag is secured. He can tour the rest of his career and be gucci. It's not like Dave strives to do Arena filled stand ups

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Nah.

Something as straight-forward as 1-2-3-4-5 etc is on par with a human being born with a dikk or a vagina. It's not complex.

You are bringing up other topics that have a plethora of variables and history behind them that garner challenging/questioning. BioTech, Big Pharma and government specifically are areas that have always been controversial subjects, it's not about challenging health and science... people are challenging motive and intent from the companies and entities involved.

@ you acting like conspiracy theories and religion is comparable to people debating gender.

Man, stop it.

No one is debating gender. You're missing the entire point. Everyone thinks transgender people are trying to change something other than themselves and that's the problem. Americans are stupid and only thing about themselves. This hasnothing to do with you or your gender or my gender my guy. Just them and the gender they percieve themselves as being. Once again Transgender people aren't harming anyone. It's not about you dude. It litearlly has nothing to do with other people. There's no real difference between calling someone a different pronoun or calling them their name. It doesn't change shyt.

Religious people and anti vaxxers are outwardly causing harm with their beliefs through laws and purposely spreading deadly disease or crippling the healthcare system.

Someone deciding they want to be a different gender isn't even in t e same ballpark of harm caused by people who want enforce their insane beleifs on the entire population. Someone asking you to call them a particular pronoun isn't even a big deal. Someone using laws to enforce christian religion or outwardly murdering people (muslims and christians both share this tradition) for not believing your bullshyt is ACTUALLY a huge problem and very real. All because they believe in sky daddy and others don't. I'm pointing out how insane religious fundamentlists actually are versus trans people who literally don't do anything that can harm people. You're failing to understand that.

That's why religious folks calling Transgender people crazy is hilarious. It's the fukking twin spider man meme pointing at each other except most religious folks actually are dangerous blood thirsty insane people. Hilariously there's also a massive correlation between antivaxxers and religous people. Literally the dumbest people in the country are also the outright craziest.

 

[Kaypain]

The alphabet gang started this war by taking away Kevin Hart's dream to host the Oscars.

Dave simply destroyed them

And he did it in a clever and tamed way. And they're mad as fukk

 

[8WON6]

The way people outrage flop over anything a black man says is fukking childish.

 

[KingofthePenguins]

Who the fukk are they and why should I give a fukk?

And Dave already got paid for this shyt. He doesn't give a fukk either. His bag is secured. He can tour the rest of his career and be gucci. It's not like Dave strives to do Arena filled stand ups

He can easily if he wants to

 

[13473]

Dave's entire argument falls apart the moment you take into account that Black Trans women life expectancy is only 35yrs old. That is the lowest of any in the country. I don't think he should be cancelled but he should sit down and talk to them the same way he talked to his trans friend that killed herself. He's wrong about this and those of you crying about empathy being a two way street need to look in the mirror and grow up so you can recognize the irony of what you're co-signing.

this is a untrue & literally takes like 5 seconds of thought to tear apart. if their population is tens of thousands, then how does 20 being murdered in their 20s & 30s drag the life expectancy down to 35?





the actual source for what you're repeating applied to sex workers in latin america where the violence/murder is higher in general



source:
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/20...xpectancy-of-trans-women-in-the-us-just-35-no
"So where does this sobering statistic come from? While many of the media outlets who’ve published this fact don’t bother to cite a source, a few do. PinkNews, for instance, links it to this blog post by LGBTQ advocacy group GLAAD, which, reads, “In America, trans women of color have a life expectancy of 35 years of age while that of their cisgender counterparts is around 78. This horrifying statistic is just one example of why standing with all those in our trans community is essential to our survival.” The author links the life expectancy in the cisgender population to a CDC report, but there’s no citation for the life expectancy of trans women.

Luckily, a few outlets did more thorough citing of their sources than GLAAD. The FastCompany article, for instance, reads, "Around 65 trans people (nearly all trans women of color) have been murdered in the U.S. since 2017, according to Human Rights Watch, so it’s no wonder the average life expectancy of trans women is only between 30 and 35." The link included goes to a press release for a report entitled, “An Overview of Violence against LGBTI Persons in the Americas: a Registry Documenting Acts of Violence between January 1, 2013 and March 31, 2014.”


That report was compiled by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights in 2015, and in it, researchers examined 594 homicides in which LGBTQ people were victims over a 15-month period. The countries surveyed included Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, the United States, Uruguay, and Venezuela, and here’s what the actual report states:


Latin American organizations report that the life expectancy of trans women in the region is between 30 and 35 years of age. According to the data collected by the IACHR, 80% of trans persons killed during a 15-month period were 35 years of age or younger. The IACHR has received consistent reports showing that trans women who are sex workers are particularly vulnerable to community violence, including killings by individuals, their clients, illegal armed groups or gangs.


Ok, so let’s parse this out. First: “Latin American organizations report that the life expectancy of trans women in the region is between 30 and 35 years of age.” There are no data attached, but evidently outlets and people who repeat this claim are extrapolating the life expectancy for trans women in the United States based on organizations that have made that claim about an entirely different region, one with some of the highest murder rates in the world. Sounds airtight.


As for the second claim, that 80 percent of trans persons killed during a 15-month period were 35 years of age or younger, that’s not particularly surprising. Homicides drop precipitously with age across all demographics: Globally, over 80 percent of all homicide victims are under the age of 44, with the bulk of victims being 29 and younger. But still, that statistic has nothing to do with the average trans woman because the average trans woman is not the victim of murder."