They tryna come for Dave Chapelle

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Nobody can still say exactly WTF Dave is saying that is supposedly shortening the life span of black trans folks or causing them harm. He got gender and sex confused, that shyt is taking 35 years off someone's life? Whether your gender determines you were born with a dikk or your sex determines you were born with a dikk, either way at the end of the day you were born with a dikk.....
-Don't even trip breh. Whether he said sex or gender doesn't matter, they know what he meant. People just using semantics & playing word games to change the subject & derail. Dave didn't say anything causing harm to any trehs.
Using whataboutism to justify why what Dave said wasn't offensive and it probably won't get anyone hurt physically but emotionally and mentally most definitely... Naw they just wanted equality too, but bigots like you are standing in their way while being apart of the black community. The oppressed has turned into the oppressor, for fukking shame....... Funny how Dave talked about empathy in The Closer and it's clear none of you Dave Defenders have none of it.... Letting someone preach hate willy nilly and you just ignoring it, especially one with a huge following that people will use to justify their own already bigoted beliefs.
-I'm just gonna respond to these parts. Nobody needs to justify what Dave said since it's his opinion. Comedy IS NOT a platform that generally cares about how people feel "emotionally & mentally" & any group can become a target. Many greats (Pryor, Burr, Diceman, Carlin, Mooney, etc.) give zero fukks & Dave's that type of comedian. It boils down to soft people that shouldn't be watching this brand of comedy getting their feelings hurt.
-Trehs don't want equality. They want to force acceptance & normalization on other people despite their opinions while being protected from criticism & backlash. No reason they should be off limits.
-Dave doesn't preach hate & random bigots agreeing with certain shyt he says isn't his problem, non bigots agree too. Just because he has a huge following doesn't mean he should have to lie about his opinion.

All Facts, this ain't the 90s
What you see in people like Chappelle, people who see loss of future earning capacity as an existential threat, is faith in an order that doesn’t actually exist. In the real world there’s no right to keep something just because you have it. In the real world you can lose everything, be forced to adapt, to change your life. These realities aren’t always fair—they sometimes are—but they are realities the vast majority of us must live with. At its seething core, the cancel culture panic is people who live on clouds yelping at the lightest tug of gravity. The cruelest joke is that it’s still all the gravity they’ll ever feel./
-Not all facts. There's no foreseeable loss to his future earning capacity so what threat? He's in a place in his life & career where he can't be cancelled & he makes fun of it. This shyt's just babble.
Is it that difficult to just NOT talk about gay and trans people? They never come up in my day to day conversations...... I don’t talk about them, because I know the repercussion. My boss is gay. I just: :hubie:
-You're not a comedian right? Why should a comedian not be able to talk about THEM but everything else is ok?
The idea is that the jokes themselves embolden people to continue to perpetuate the hate against them. Kind of a shaky argument imo as there are plenty of people who might find Dave’s special funny who aren’t gonna go out and find a trans person to kill, but whatever
-It's bullshyt breh. They're trying to push not considering a treh a REAL woman as hatred or bigoted when it's not. None of his jokes endorse hatred or violence towards trehs.
 

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And you are using whataboutism to justify why what Dave said wasn't offensive

And it probably won't get anyone hurt physically but emotionally and mentally most definitely, ask the showrunner for "Dear White People" how she feels :unimpressed:

law of comedy: it is OK to punch upwards (NOT downwards though)

lemma: society has treated the black -> LGBT-etc dynamic as up -> down

dave is saying that the black -> LGBT dynamic is in fact down -> up because of "many reasons" (many of which he points out)

one such major reason being the hypocrisy driven by white supremacy of society at large being more accepting of LGBT because of their majority race.

on this basis "in comedy stance" he feels that he is allowed to "punch up".

and he "punches up" to an excessive degree to drive people to confront the biases that led to LGBT acceptance with continuing black denial. to confront why one group is deemed less protected than the other, while in reality overall they are more accepted.

at the end of the day i doubt very much that dave cares about whether LGBT p is real. he DOES however care that society seems to be more sensitive about respecting the "more arguably" derivative parts of some while it simultaneously rejects the real human parts of black others.

now when comedians make these sort of long-winded nuanced points they run the risk of the surface message supplanting his deeper message, which in certain eyes can render it crass in interpretation and hence crass in effect.
 
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Yes the world doesn't work in the way of one person speaking up for an entire community, which you tried to change into other countries don't support transgender people for whatever reason

Forgive me for using this ableist slur

But a lot of you dudes are mentally fukking retarded
Bet you wouldn’t use the term tranny though

even though being Trans i.e gender dysphoria is a mental illness :mjpls:

hypocrite

yes you shouldn’t preach this PC bs if you’re going to use terms like retarded at least we keep it 100
 
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Have y’all been keeping up with CNNs, TyT & other outlets responses?
They all cherry picking shyt & totally not focusing on substance, shame on TyT man
 

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My main issue with the special after having just watched is that he is being passive aggressive

He says he is transphobic, but is constantly trying to find reasons to justify it by bringing up double standards that go against black people and the like. And, yes those double standards exist, but it's lame when you bring them up.

If you think trans people are weirdos and don't like them that much and don't get why why have so much power, then say it and leave it at that.

If you think trans people should be allowed to be joked about like everyone else, just say that.

Because otherwise, it sounds like you are not really saying anything substantial :manny:


Aside from that.... the special was funny.


At least Eddy Murphy's jokes were straight up jokes, like the San Francisco police siren one.
 
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He knows that the sound bite folks aren't going to pay attention to what he said so he throws out terms that are guaranteed uproar between him showing empathy. That's why you got articles saying Dave admits he's a TERF. 5s later he's saying they're real women. They assume the take that's real is the one that suits their agenda. It's all very predictable. They don't know how to get joked on.
 

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Ayo wtf is cistheteronomy?:what:

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