This about to get ugly.Ice cube vs nas... In thier prime

[OnlyInCalifornia]

receipts? You sound like you're just making shyt up/shifting posts.

LOL @ asking for receipts from something 20+ years ago knowing damn well it's just a corny posting ploy by you to try to dance around. Save that kind of shyt for stupid posters breh.

Double funny when you are from Canada trying to tell others and myself, someone born and raised in LA, how things were in LA.

So, since you seem to be an expert on Los Angeles, even more than people who lived here, can you provide receipts that Ice Cube got his style from KRS One by listening to Boogie Down Production singles in Los Angeles? You know instead of saying someone like Ice T....who actually was from here and Cube knew.....

I legit am still laughing you thought Public Enemy was making music over a year before NWA even released a single piece of music.

 

[SirBiatch]

juelz

so no receipts? Gotcha.

I'll let a West Coast rap site tell you what you don't already seem to know/are insecure about:

N.W.A., the unapologetically violent and sexist pioneers of gangsta rap, is in many ways the most notorious group in the history of rap. Emerging in the late '80s, when Public Enemy had rewritten the rules of hardcore rap by proving that it could be intelligent, revolutionary and socially aware, N.W.A. capitalized on PE's sonic breakthroughs while ignoring their message. Instead, the five-piece crew celebrated the violence and hedonism of the criminal life, capturing it all in blunt, harsh language.

NWA Biography

The following quote is even better because it comes from Dr. Dre himself:

In 1985, one of the group's direct predecessors, Compton rapper Toddy Tee, condemned LAPD tactics in the underground hit "Batterram," named after the tanklike vehicle cops used to smash down doors without warning. And Dre, meanwhile, would listen to Public Enemy on the way to the studio. "That was our go-to," says Dre. "I was the biggest Public Enemy fan — I think it's what inspired the aggression of N.W.A. We just took a different route lyrically."

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/n-w-a-american-gangsters-20150827

To add to all this, it's just a big coincidence that Cube was/is a massive fan of PE and, in the words of Common, was "on the dikk of the East for his first release (ha!)"

Ice Cube On Working With The Bomb Squad: "I Was Lucky"

That, my friend, is how you provide actual receipts and stay on topic.

Allow me to go off-topic for a sec and say this:

Spoiler

Please don't kill yourself. It's not that serious. Greats are inspired by other greats. Everything comes from somewhere.

 

[bigrodthe1]

No one is copying your posting style, more like mocking it since it's so played at this point. You should switch it up honestly. Maybe you can post like OnlyInCalifornia

They didn't and their music was already out. A legit release. Singles were OUT. Boyz In The Hood was OUT. Ruthless even re-released it as an album later. It's officially apart of their catalog. It's not a mixtape, it's not a fan put together album. It's not some throw away tracks. They were songs that were out, originally by the group known as NWA written by Cube. Word to @mobbinfms That was before the Public Enemy singles. So no, they didn't pre-date NWA by well over a year. NO Chuck D and Ice Cube are not the same artist. And KRS One being sampled on Straight Outta Compton doesn't mean he directly influenced Cube nor was that style pre-dating Ice Cube. That like saying Eminem's Infinite wasn't his first piece of work but really Slim Shady LP was his first album. That's actually re-planting an artist but that's a different debate....we will stick to this one.....

No matter how bad you want to spin yourself out of this L, you won't. Cobra clutch breh. Like I said, I have no problem going back and forth all day.

 

[SirBiatch]

@OnlyInCalifornia mute again

 

[bigrodthe1]

so no receipts? Gotcha.

I'll let a West Coast rap site tell you what you don't already seem to know/are insecure about:



NWA Biography

The following quote is even better because it comes from Dr. Dre himself:



N.W.A: American Gangstas

To add to all this, it's just a big coincidence that Cube was/is a massive fan of PE and, in the words of Common, was "on the dikk of the East for his first release (ha!)"

Ice Cube On Working With The Bomb Squad: "I Was Lucky"

That, my friend, is how you provide actual receipts and stay on topic.

Allow me to go off-topic for a sec and say this:

Spoiler

Please don't kill yourself. It's not that serious. Greats are inspired by other greats. Everything comes from somewhere.

it was already stated that the production was similar because EVERYONE at the time was using breakbeats and samples but the key to it all was what Dre said "we took a different lyrical route."

 

[GzUp]

Illmatic is one of my favorite album of all times but cube in his prime was a monster who made crazy good albums... Cube shytted on cacs and had good word play, also funny too... I highly recommend people listen to Amerikkkas most wanted.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

@OnlyInCalifornia mute again

Aww is little SirBiatch upset cuz hes not getting attention right away? I am posting in other threads breh.

so no receipts? Gotcha.

I'll let a West Coast rap site tell you what you don't already seem to know/are insecure about:

Where are your receipts? Links to a DonMega website? lol.

Here is Ice Cube talking about Criminals In Action at 16 and writing for Eazy E in high school when he was 15-16....I even was kind enough to put the times....



This was before NWA was founded...

You have Whoo Kid co signing the records before being 'definitely Ice Cube'...

So again...PE and KRS One didn't directly influence his style...it's not the same style

N.W.A: American Gangstas

To add to all this, it's just a big coincidence that Cube was/is a massive fan of PE and, in the words of Common, was "on the dikk of the East for his first release (ha!)"

And who did they ask who Ice Cube was playing in 85-86 and he says RUN DMC....he says nothing about Public Enemy or KRS when he wrote these records...

Being a fan of Public Enemy does not mean that he influenced him at the start of his career. Nor did he get his style from them directly or formed it.

Ice Cube On Working With The Bomb Squad: "I Was Lucky"

That, my friend, is how you provide actual receipts and stay on topic.

And this my friend, is how you son a kid from Canada who wants to tell people about an area they are from and music he doesn't listen to.

Allow me to go off-topic for a sec and say this:

Please don't get so emotional, you've taken a lot of Ls in here. Glad that rep is turned back on too, thanks brehs.

 

[SirBiatch]

it was already stated that the production was similar because EVERYONE at the time was using breakbeats and samples but the key to it all was what Dre said "we took a different lyrical route."

Your comprehension is horrible.

Stick to playing cheerleader. Thanks.

 

[SirBiatch]

more juelz

did you even bother to read the Rolling Stone article I posted that has BOTH Dre and Ice Cube talking about their NWA and pre-NWA influences?

Cube started out more Run DMC-ish and when PE started blowing up, Dre/Cube got inspired to take that PE energy and direct it in a different way. That's why those early Cube/Eazy-E joint were more Run DMC/Ice-T/Schooly D ish and the actual NWA shyt was more P.E. like. How in the fukk is this not obvious? PE were fukking huge in hip hop at one point before NWA got huge. To pretend like they couldn't possibly have influenced NWA's approach is delusional as fukk. Dre tells you straight up that's where they got their aggression from and you wanna play dumb-dumb.

I'm done. Believe whatever you want to believe. Keep rambling about SirBiatch if you must, though I wouldn't be surprised if you suddenly go mute

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

I just posted a direct video of him saying what influenced him when he wrote those records and you didn't want to address it and afraid to quote

Words out of HIS OWN MOUTH



I like when you can't debate your way out of something another person is Juelzing. Hilariously pathetic.

did you even bother to read the Rolling Stone article I posted that has BOTH Dre and Ice Cube talking about their influences?

Cube started out more Run DMC-ish and when PE started blowing up, Dre/Cube got inspired to take that PE energy and direct it in a different way. That's why those early Cube/Eazy-E joint were more Run DMC/Ice-T/Schooly D ish and the actual NWA shyt was more P.E. like. How in the fukk is this not obvious? PE were fukking huge in hip hop at one point. To pretend like they couldn't possibly have influenced NWA's approach is delusional as fukk. Dre tells you straight up that's where they got their aggression from and you wanna play dumb dumb.

I'm done. Believe whatever you want to believe. Keep rambling about SirBiatch if you must

Article is irrelvant in this debate since they are talking about NWA. I proved that he had this style BEFORE NWA and he said that when he wrote the record he was way into RUN DMC, not the people you just threw out there like you knew.

Boyz In The Hood is not Run-DMC ish, its not KRS-ish, it's not Public Enemy ish. When did any of those guys talk about 6-4s, alpine head units, wearing GUESS, and driving El Camino cars????

They didn't and I am not going to rehash all the points I already made proving that Public Enemy and Ice Cube did not have the same style. I also am not going to let you try to tell us how something is when Cube already explained who influenced him when he wrote Boyz In The Hood in high school.

Tuck your tail and run, you caught an L and then made it worse by continuing to argue only to get shyt on by Ice Cube himself. Kind of ironic and fitting to this whole thing.

 

[bigrodthe1]

Your comprehension is horrible.

Stick to playing cheerleader. Thanks.

 

[SirBiatch]

Boyz In The Hood is not Run-DMC ish, its not KRS-ish, it's not Public Enemy ish. When did any of those guys talk about 6-4s, alpine head units, wearing GUESS, and driving El Camino cars????

You're so simple. So because they're not talking about 6-4s it suddenly can't be ANYTHING like the music that inspired them?

Even in your video, Cube's talking about how he was playing the shyt out of Run DMC in that pre-NWA era. but somehow it didn't influence him, right?

You're so dumb you don't even realize that nothing in that video contradicts a single thing I've said nor anything Cube & Dre said in the Rolling Stone article.

Keep it real: you don't even care what the truth is in this matter. I bet you still haven't checked out the Rolling Stone article I posted. You're just here screaming about Ls like a child hooked on Sesame Street. A part of you probably wants to highlight the fact that I said I was done but I'm posting again.

Instead of that , why not read the Rolling Stone article and get your timeline up? Do it for hip hop

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

You're so simple. So because they're not talking about 6-4s it suddenly can't be ANYTHING like the music that inspired them?

Even in your video, Cube's talking about how he was playing the shyt out of Run DMC in that pre-NWA era. but somehow it didn't influence him, right?

You're so dumb you don't even realize that nothing in that video contradicts a single thing I've said nor anything Cube & Dre said in the Rolling Stone article.

Keep it real: you don't even care what the truth is in this matter. I bet you still haven't checked out the Rolling Stone article I posted. You're just here screaming about Ls like a child hooked on Sesame Street. A part of you probably wants to highlight the fact that I said I was done but I'm posting again.

Instead of that , why not read the Rolling Stone article and get your timeline up? Do it for hip hop

Oh is that like the part of you who like a child who doesn't get attention right away had to run with the 'ONLYINCALIFORNIA WENT MUTE AGAIN' TWICE? Or how about when you got proven wrong you tried to plug your ears and LA LA LA LA yourself out of a debate like a lil kiddie by not quoting a post directed to you?

I thought you were leaving like you said. You couldn't possibly be a type of person who says one thing but does another right? But you can't help yourself can you? Seems like those emotions are getting the best of you. That's not a good look for lil SirBiatch.


You don't care what the truth is. The song doesn't match their style, he says Run DMC influenced him when he wrote it HIMSELF, and yet you want everyone to think you are right. That is why even though it's been proven that Ice Cube had this style before PE put out an album and before KRS One put out an album you keep running with it. Same reason why when it's pointed out that Straight Outta Compton wasn't the first release of music from NWA.....When it is pointed out that Ice Cube said from his own mouth that he doesn't back your assumptions or your attempt to stretch armstrong comments, you run with your tail tucked....

Like I told you earlier, we can keep going at this. I have no problem exposing how emotional you are, how hard headed you are, and really how you really talk out of your ass half the time relying on Google to bail you out. Sadly, when someone doesn't have to Google around, they catch people like you slipping. You aren't into Westcoast Hip Hop so stop pretending and relying on Google.

 

[SirBiatch]

juelz

Breh, stop devoting 50%+ of each post rambling about me. I'm not that important Focus on the discussion at hand.

I bet you still haven't read the Rolling Stone article So do me a favor: don't respond until you do. Something tells me you'll never read it anyway. One can always count on Coli laziness and insecurity.

No matter how many receipts I show, you refuse to believe that P.E. influenced NWA at its very core

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Breh, stop devoting 50%+ of each post rambling about me. I'm not that important Focus on the discussion at hand.

I bet you still haven't read the Rolling Stone article So do me a favor: don't respond until you do.

No matter how many receipts I show, you refuse to believe that P.E. influenced NWA at its very core

Why breh? Is it hurting your feelings? A guy who constantly talks about himself in the 3rd person all the sudden doesn't want to be talked about?? Sorry but request denied. Google and these type of requests won't save you. I told you before. Every time you fake quote, it shows what a coward you are.

The discussion is over, you've already been proven wrong multiple times. You have no proof that PE and KRS One/BDP influenced Ice Cube in 1985-1986. I am only keeping this up because you are trying to push down you getting proven wrong multiple times.

Them influencing NWA doesn't change the fact that BEFORE NWA that Ice Cube was rapping that way. When he wrote Boyz In The Hood, which is the classic NWA style record, he was in high school and said he was influenced by RUN DMC.

Now you understand the very simple point that Ice Cube had this style BEFORE NWA but see you can't admit you were wrong. Right now it's not about the truth, its about you trying to muddy up the water to take your L away. So each time you post, I will keep pointing it out.

Please don't talk about receipts when you are ignoring Cube's very own words from the exact time frame we are talking about. Not AFTER.