This Generation Has Ruined Old School Rap for Me... but in a Good Way

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Phife Dawg's death yesterday got me thinking and I came to a few realizations. First off the radio station I was listening to with my friend played 4 ATCQ songs back to back to back (which will almost assuredly never happen again) and one of them was Electric Relaxation. I've always thought that song was a classic. Until I got home and discovered Kanye's remix to it. If anyone forgot how fukking good of music Kanye used to make, this song will remind you of exactly what he used to be about. And then, not only did Kanye (and Consequence) outperform them on their track, but Logic took it a step further than that as well. Why would I ever listen to the original Electric Relaxation when multiple better versions exist?

Another example: Glorious Thugs. I used to think of Notorious Thugs as not only one of my all-time favorites, but also one of the greatest hip hop songs ever. And then Flatbush Zombies (most specifically Erick) came in and straight up shyt on it. I will never listen to the original version again after hearing that, especially considering the original is 7 mins and the remix is 3

Lloyd Banks "ruined" The Pharcyde's "Passin Me By" (but I don't mean it as he ruined it, I mean it as he took it and made it way better). Same with Serial Killa.

The rap game changed. People can talk about how it's all about money and connections today all they want. But it really comes down to 2 things: samples, and taking what's already been done and turning it into something different/better

Up until 2 months ago, I was one of those people who was still stuck on 90s rap and it was pretty much all I bumped (you can kinda tell from my avatar tbh). But I can see we're In an era where classics will become shyt on to make way for new classics that sample those classics. It's time to move on from that dusty shyt
 

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Phife Dawg's death yesterday got me thinking and I came to a few realizations. First off the radio station I was listening to with my friend played 4 ATCQ songs back to back to back (which will almost assuredly never happen again) and one of them was Electric Relaxation. I've always thought that song was a classic. Until I got home and discovered Kanye's remix to it. If anyone forgot how fukking good of music Kanye used to make, this song will remind you of exactly what he used to be about. And then, not only did Kanye (and Consequence) outperform them on their track, but Logic took it a step further than that as well. Why would I ever listen to the original Electric Relaxation when multiple better versions exist?

Another example: Glorious Thugs. I used to think of Notorious Thugs as not only one of my all-time favorites, but also one of the greatest hip hop songs ever. And then Flatbush Zombies (most specifically Erick) came in and straight up shyt on it. I will never listen to the original version again after hearing that, especially considering the original is 7 mins and the remix is 3

Lloyd Banks "ruined" The Pharcyde's "Passin Me By" (but I don't mean it as he ruined it, I mean it as he took it and made it way better). Same with Serial Killa.

The rap game changed. People can talk about how it's all about money and connections today all they want. But it really comes down to 2 things: samples, and taking what's already been done and turning it into something different/better

Up until 2 months ago, I was one of those people who was still stuck on 90s rap and it was pretty much all I bumped (you can kinda tell from my avatar tbh). But I can see we're In an era where classics will become shyt on to make way for new classics that sample those classics. It's time to move on from that dusty shyt

:mjlol: No to every single one of these...i dont neg but this is deserving
 

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Terrible thread and terrible examples. Neg pending

The examples I picked are lyrically superior and production is typically better for the newer versions. Are we seriously going to sit here and act like Lloyd Banks' freestyle doesn't shyt all over the original Passing Me By? Are you going to just completely ignore the fact that Logic absolutely annilihated the Electric Relaxation beat compared to Tip? Does Kendrick not go off on his Regulate freestyle?
 

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i respect your opinion, and i like flatbush, but no. That remix aint there

I might have exaggerated that one. I just really liked Erick's part and the production. Regardless the other examples I gave were all valid
 

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Phife Dawg's death yesterday got me thinking and I came to a few realizations. First off the radio station I was listening to with my friend played 4 ATCQ songs back to back to back (which will almost assuredly never happen again) and one of them was Electric Relaxation. I've always thought that song was a classic. Until I got home and discovered Kanye's remix to it. If anyone forgot how fukking good of music Kanye used to make, this song will remind you of exactly what he used to be about. And then, not only did Kanye (and Consequence) outperform them on their track, but Logic took it a step further than that as well. Why would I ever listen to the original Electric Relaxation when multiple better versions exist?

Another example: Glorious Thugs. I used to think of Notorious Thugs as not only one of my all-time favorites, but also one of the greatest hip hop songs ever. And then Flatbush Zombies (most specifically Erick) came in and straight up shyt on it. I will never listen to the original version again after hearing that, especially considering the original is 7 mins and the remix is 3

Lloyd Banks "ruined" The Pharcyde's "Passin Me By" (but I don't mean it as he ruined it, I mean it as he took it and made it way better). Same with Serial Killa.

The rap game changed. People can talk about how it's all about money and connections today all they want. But it really comes down to 2 things: samples, and taking what's already been done and turning it into something different/better

Up until 2 months ago, I was one of those people who was still stuck on 90s rap and it was pretty much all I bumped (you can kinda tell from my avatar tbh). But I can see we're In an era where classics will become shyt on to make way for new classics that sample those classics. It's time to move on from that dusty shyt

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DISGUSTING!!!!!! That Jay smilie was my face reading this
 

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DISGUSTING!!!!!! That Jay smilie was my face reading this

You don't think that Kanye/Consequence and Logic were both lyrically better than ATCQ? I can understand on Glorious Thugs (and I did admit I may have overreacted when typing that paragraph). But logic had one of the best flows I've ever heard on his version of that song, and Kanye's last 4 lines in his version completely sum up his culture as a whole
 

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The examples I picked are lyrically superior and production is typically better for the newer versions. Are we seriously going to sit here and act like Lloyd Banks' freestyle doesn't shyt all over the original Passing Me By? Are you going to just completely ignore the fact that Logic absolutely annilihated the Electric Relaxation beat compared to Tip? Does Kendrick not go off on his Regulate freestyle?
What the hell are you talking about my nikka? You're out of your brain. and no, none of them remixes or remakes of those original tracks are BETTER SONGS. They're just not.

You're comparing random lyrical exercises on a beat compared to a cohesive songs with story and direction. What are you even saying right now? Yes Banks is a better rapper than the dudes in Pharcyde. But his little freestyle over Passing Me By beat is in no way better than the original nor does it make me not one to hear the original anymore. You're out of your mind.
 
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