This Generation Has Ruined Old School Rap for Me... but in a Good Way

The Dust King

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By that logic, The Message was a superior song to Check Yo Self. And we know for a fact which song fukking killed it and which sounded obsolete just 3 years later

I wish you could understand the point I was trying to make. It's not that I don't like those old school rap songs anymore, they will always have a place to me because they made me who I am today. I just prefer the newer versions over them because they've taken songs I already held in high prestige and expanded on them to bring an entire new dimension to their music that I never saw possible. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that

Check yo self VS the message is a better comparison.

But ice cube stuck to the script and gave you a "message".

None of the songs you named even cohesively pay homage to the topic.

Matter of fact they dont even deal with topics at all, they are just exercises in rhyming

The amount of disrespect displayed in the OP is solidified by you saying youll "never even listen to the originals again"

Not only are those not better songs but they arent even better remixes because they bring nothing to the table

Every single remix you brought up was inferior compared to the flow, production and lyrical content of the originals.

Banks is just a freestyle. Kanye/cons is a wash and that glorious thugs is the worst of all.

The other tracks you mentioned actually flow, those zombie guys rhyme so offbeat it makes the song unlistenable.

I will have to play a couple of bone thugs and harmony songs just to wash the memory of that song out my mind

Everything you said was an opinion and everything i stated was facts.

Mind you i didnt knock any of the artists who remixed the songs, its just what your saying holds no weight

you managed to shyt on so many legends in such short breaths. Big, grandmaster flash, tribe, bonethugs....

According to your logic every freestyle is better than the original.
 

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just listening to this Glorious Thugs song, all they did was take the verses that BIG & Bone already spit and put their on words into it. didn't flip it their own way, didn't spit differently, didn't make it their own. if you can't make the song your own then it's not better than the OG
 

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I used to think of Notorious Thugs as not only one of my all-time favorites, but also one of the greatest hip hop songs ever. And then Flatbush Zombies (most specifically Erick) came in and straight up shyt on it. I will never listen to the original version again after hearing that, especially considering the original is 7 mins and the remix is 3

Negged and one star off the strength of this bullshyt FOH
 

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Phife Dawg's death yesterday got me thinking and I came to a few realizations. First off the radio station I was listening to with my friend played 4 ATCQ songs back to back to back (which will almost assuredly never happen again) and one of them was Electric Relaxation. I've always thought that song was a classic. Until I got home and discovered Kanye's remix to it. If anyone forgot how fukking good of music Kanye used to make, this song will remind you of exactly what he used to be about. And then, not only did Kanye (and Consequence) outperform them on their track, but Logic took it a step further than that as well. Why would I ever listen to the original Electric Relaxation when multiple better versions exist?

Another example: Glorious Thugs. I used to think of Notorious Thugs as not only one of my all-time favorites, but also one of the greatest hip hop songs ever. And then Flatbush Zombies (most specifically Erick) came in and straight up shyt on it. I will never listen to the original version again after hearing that, especially considering the original is 7 mins and the remix is 3

Lloyd Banks "ruined" The Pharcyde's "Passin Me By" (but I don't mean it as he ruined it, I mean it as he took it and made it way better). Same with Serial Killa.

The rap game changed. People can talk about how it's all about money and connections today all they want. But it really comes down to 2 things: samples, and taking what's already been done and turning it into something different/better

Up until 2 months ago, I was one of those people who was still stuck on 90s rap and it was pretty much all I bumped (you can kinda tell from my avatar tbh). But I can see we're In an era where classics will become shyt on to make way for new classics that sample those classics. It's time to move on from that dusty shyt

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No offense dog, usually when nigs type that much I feel what they're saying, but i ain't feeling this nonsense
 

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shouldnt you be comparing original songs from now, to original songs from the 90s?

Even still...your examples are horrible.
Im listening to this Flat Bush Zombies shyt now...and it not good.
Plus they used the whole song structure of Notorious Thugs...thats not hard to remix.

Compare Notorious Thugs to an original Flat Bush Zombies song.
 
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