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The current Vince Carter would put up similar numbers if he played back then :troll:
 

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The current Vince Carter would put up similar numbers if he played back then :troll:

Elgin Baylor had the worst fg pct of any 30 ppg scorer in nba history he was an overrated chucker that would of been a bench player in this era
 

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Baylor is probably the mot underrated player of all time.

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whose voice was it when they listed their top 3 SFs?


the 3:10 mark :wow:


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"Bird Baylor and Barry"? That is Nate Thurmond, and that quote is from this past year on a radio interview. Chick Hearn is the one who picks Bird and Baylor and that quote was from the early 90's.

Also Julius Erving picks Baylor over any other SF for his starting 5 all-time team and that is as of last year. As did Wilt (just before he died) and Bill Russell still picks Baylor as of an interview a few years ago. Lots of legends still think incredibly highly of Baylor. We as fans today, are starved of his greatness, it was never really captured on film.
 

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Elgin Baylor had the worst fg pct of any 30 ppg scorer in nba history he was an overrated chucker that would of been a bench player in this era

Efficiency $tats. The crutch of ESPN/hollinger-era fans. Players of different eras played a game with ever so slightly different rules and trends, and as such league-wide stats can vary a little across the eras - fg% for example was typically lower in his era - his fg% relative to his peers was analogous to that of Carmelo Anthony today. Not many people complain about Melo's fg% today do they? Back in Baylor's time not many (if any) would complain about his fg% either. Without getting into any "adjustment" arguments (which I don't really believe in... these guys avgd what they avgd and there will never be an accurate "formula" to jump eras) I will just say this - you can knock Elgin's fg% all you want, but how does that negate his ppg/rpg/apg and other accolades and all the praise and adulation from his peers?
 

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Dr J Wilt and Bill are all biased towards their era

Nobody would be dumb enough to pick a 6'5 SF to start on their all time team
 

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Efficiency $tats. The crutch of ESPN/hollinger-era fans. Players of different eras had slightly different rules, and as such league-wide stats vary across the eras. Without getting into any "adjustment" arguments (which I don't believe in) I will just say this - you can knock Elgin's fg% all you want, but how does that negate his ppg/rpg/apg and other accolades and all the praise and adulation from his peers?

the thing is players of his era were all shooting high fg% his were all atrocious

watch the tapes and you can see Baylor was just a much more superior athlete than his competition but he had a low basketball IQ(also proven by his run as a GM)and his stats were overrated imo
 

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the thing is players of his era were all shooting high fg% his were all atrocious

watch the tapes and you can see Baylor was just a much more supernal athlete than his competition but he had a low basketball IG(also proven by his run as a GM)and his stats were overrated imo

:wtf: :beli: literally none of what you said is true
 

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Dr J Wilt and Bill are all biased towards their era

Nobody would be dumb enough to pick a 6'5 SF to start on their all time team

Baylor is before Dr. J's time. If Dr. J was bias to his era he'd pick himself, Rick Barry, or Larry Bird.
 

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the thing is players of his era were all shooting high fg% his were all atrocious

watch the tapes and you can see Baylor was just a much more superior athlete than his competition but he had a low basketball IQ(also proven by his run as a GM)and his stats were overrated imo

A great athlete could really dominate the game back then. It'd be crazy what would happen to the stats of some of the role players now if they played in the 60's or 70's. Jeff green, Rudy Gay, JR Smith and Joakim Noah would be all time greats
 

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A great athlete could really dominate the game back then. It'd be crazy what would happen to the stats of some of the role players now if they played in the 60's or 70's. Jeff green, Rudy Gay, JR Smith and Joakim Noah would be all time greats

They'd be just another "Jumpin' Johnny Green" back then.
 

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the thing is players of his era were all shooting high fg% his were all atrocious

watch the tapes and you can see Baylor was just a much more superior athlete than his competition but he had a low basketball IQ(also proven by his run as a GM)and his stats were overrated imo
breh, just stan the Heat and stay out of basketball discussions.

Hes biased towards his childhood hero, same thing. You tit for tat fakkits on here...:pacspit:

but you aren't of course.
 
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Efficiency $tats. The crutch of ESPN/hollinger-era fans. Players of different eras played a game with ever so slightly different rules and trends, and as such league-wide stats can vary a little across the eras - fg% for example was typically lower in his era - his fg% relative to his peers was analogous to that of Carmelo Anthony today. Not many people complain about Melo's fg% today do they? Back in Baylor's time not many (if any) would complain about his fg% either. Without getting into any "adjustment" arguments (which I don't really believe in... these guys avgd what they avgd and there will never be an accurate "formula" to jump eras) I will just say this - you can knock Elgin's fg% all you want, but how does that negate his ppg/rpg/apg and other accolades and all the praise and adulation from his peers?

literally everyone says that melo is inefficient, whether its because he has no help or he's just bad is the crux of the debate about him
 
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