This is getting outta hand . . . Drizzy Forced to Apologize for J. Cole Line

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What's your point that someone MIGHT go out and shoot someone because Rick Ross said he kills people on a song?

Autism isn't a what if or MIGHT situation, it really effects millions of people all around the world.

Well, rap (and any music for that matter) does affect how people act. As far as autism, it is what it is. If you're an autistic person who listens to rap, then you already know it's about clever lines to begin with. If you don't, then it shouldn't affect you. J. Cole and Drake apologizing is bullshyt, but it's what they chose to do. I would tell them it's just a line , and keep it moving.
 

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Well, rap (and any music for that matter) does affect how people act. As far as autism, it is what it is. If you're an autistic person who listens to rap, then you already know it's about clever lines to begin with. If you don't, then it shouldn't affect you. J. Cole and Drake apologizing is bullshyt, but it's what they chose to do. I would tell them it's just a line , and keep it moving.

It effects some people, sure. One might argue that people who are influenced like that to commit murder have other issues going on but that is another thread. On top of all that, that is an extreme that someone listens to a rap song then goes kill someone. A kid going out and making fun of an autistic kid because of this line is much more likely. People have Autism right now, millions of people.

Why is it bullshyt? If J Cole legit felt bad then it's his right to speak his peace. It was HIS line, not yours. Does J Cole have to keep Hip Hop 'Hardcore' so you feel better when you listen to it or something?
 

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It effects some people, sure. One might argue that people who are influenced like that to commit murder have other issues going on but that is another thread. On top of all that, that is an extreme that someone listens to a rap song then goes kill someone. A kid going out and making fun of an autistic kid because of this line is much more likely. People have Autism right now, millions of people.

If someone was going to make fun of someone with Autism, it's not going to be because J. Cole called them retarded. Let's be real here.

Why is it bullshyt? If J Cole legit felt bad then it's his right to speak his peace. It was HIS line, not yours. Does J Cole have to keep Hip Hop 'Hardcore' so you feel better when you listen to it or something?

Of course it was HIS line, and I stated in my last response that it is what it is. Just like I have the right to state it's bullshyt and I wouldn't have done it.
 

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If someone was going to make fun of someone with Autism, it's not going to be because J. Cole called them retarded. Let's be real here.



Of course it was HIS line, and I stated in my last response that it is what it is. Just like I have the right to state it's bullshyt and I wouldn't have done it.

Let's be real here....there is a much greater chance a kid hears a J Cole line and repeats it to an autistic kid than your scenario where a kid listens to a Waka Flocka Flame record then goes and kills someone with a chopper.

Why do you think it is bullshyt? Because the 'hardcore' thing to do would have been having J Cole say 'fukk Autism Speaks' instead of being a man and admitting a fault? Isn't that setting a much better example? No one can be a regular guy?

It's only bullshyt if he did it after losing endorsements but he didn't. He legit felt bad and it's not bullshyt if he wants to walk back his own words, they were his words.
 

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What's your point that someone MIGHT go out and shoot someone because Rick Ross said he kills people on a song?

Autism isn't a what if or MIGHT situation, it really effects millions of people all around the world.
There's really no difference...there's a bunch of people in the world with autism...just like there's a bunch of people that get murdered in senseless violence everyday (and families effected by said violence that are offended by references in music) ...rap songs aren't making people autistic anymore than they're directly causing murders...autism advocacy groups exist to catch feelings over random ass harmless rap lines, just like anti-violence advocates exist to be offended by rap for decades now...basically, this apologizing for lyrics shyt is getting comical now :pachaha: ...j. cole's original apology made no fukking sense when he prefaced it with that first paragraph about how rap lyrics are essentially in the same ilk as comedy far as creative license goes...then Drake rushing in on some "you're not gonna out-sensitive me...I apologize TOO!" is borderline ridiculous...rappers should really just start apologizing for every song they make, or become gospel rappers at this point...but then also apologize to jews, muslims, buddhists and non-theists who may be offended by their gospel rhymes
 
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Let's be real here....there is a much greater chance a kid hears a J Cole line and repeats it to an autistic kid than your scenario where a kid listens to a Waka Flocka Flame record then goes and kills someone with a chopper.

What you're doing is speaking in extremes here. There's a middle ground between making fun of someone and killing someone. When I mentioned earlier that music 'affects' us, I was referring to many different ways. For example, when I want to mellow out at home I might put on some Sade, or put on Big K.R.I.T to relax when I'm just riding. A J. Cole line might get brought up as ridicule faster than Waka would be used to kill someone because, well, people are made fun of more than they are murdered.

Why do you think it is bullshyt? Because the 'hardcore' thing to do would have been fukk J Cole to say 'fukk Autism Speaks' instead of being a man and admitting a fault? Isn't that setting a much better example? Or does all of Hip Hop need to be 'hardcore' ? No one can be a regular guy?

He doesn't have to say 'fukk Autism Speaks', but as a man, you should be able to stand behind your words. If there wasn't a controversy surrounding this, do you think J. Cole would be apologizing? Let's be real here..an apology like that can't really be considered sincere, regardless of whether he has endorsements or not. Cole is his own man, but I either wouldn't have addressed the issue, or I would have explained how hip-hop operates. No apologies.
 
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