This Is How Much Engineers Make at Airbnb, Uber and Snapchat

[FSP]

Most of the types that do tend to go for artistic white p*ssy but it's a bytch. It's really not the business but it's one area where you can freelance if you are really good.

I don't intend on actuallly doing it for work.. I definitely put function over form , so I still spend most of my time and energy programming. I just like doing simple minimalist shyt

 

[MalikX]

You can live any where if you want to struggle. 25K is a barely above the water salary in most cities. I wouldn't try to live in the City on $70K. I don't want to struggle like that. Maybe in San Jose or Fremont, and commute to the City.


70K in san fran is barely able to live at all. My company pays new staff 70K, and a large percentage of the SF office hires live in Oakland, berkeley, hayward and fremont because they can't afford to live anywhere near the City. They all have to commute or ride the train into the city if they work at the office for the day.

I always wondered why companies bring on staff in expensive cities for back office positions.....because you'd have to pay them enough to live in those places...you'd think they'd put all the non-essential roles in cheap cities in flyover states to save costs.

 

[Apollo Creed]

That's with most high paying jobs though. Even if you ran a business, you'd be working round the clock. My friends in finance do 90-100 hours frequently. 60 hours is what, 12 hours a day. I can stomach that but, I'd kill myself if I was doing 100 hours a week.

Notice you didn't say all though.

 

[root_eruditorium_org]

Let's stop some of the foolishness.

Yes people live in the bay, SF even making 60-70k and do fine. i don't know where someone got $5-7k for s one bedroom

These startup and tech jobs aren't all fun and games, yes there is a laidback atmosphere but some dude was posting shyt like people are putting in 40 and chilling...no, most coders are putting in way more hours which is the reason these tech companies have so many perks.

I'm not privy to all facets of dev and the whole cert gang, but y'all who don't have 4 year degrees and/or think you'll do a bootcamp with some AA degree and think you'll get a job at the types of companies listed in OP are WAY off base. Now how that translates elsewhere or into other roles outside SV, I can't speak on...but getting on at Google Twitter Facebook or the sexiest startups/unicorns...you need the name brand college killer skills and ability to sell yourself on "fit".

Google, Facebook and the rest of them don't even care about academic pedigree - you just need to be good and play the interview game well at some level. Because I hear a lot of Google/Facebook engineers complaining about ppl who've basically just memorized the questions.

 

[root_eruditorium_org]

yeah theres a reason these companies have on site gyms, day care, free food, etc. because your black ass aint going home and will be putting in 60+ hours especially at a place like Apple where Product Launches will not be delayed no matter what.

Google is a great place to work. I don't know where you are getting this information from. If you can't get your work done between 9 and 5pm you probably aren't going to get hired anyways. Basically the notion that you are FORCED to work 60 hours is so against what Google is about that I have to wonder who told you this.

The one big 4 company that definitely sucks is Amazon. You can have a great experience if you work at Amazon but it varies considerably depending on team. Plus Amazon doesn't give any perks at all.

 

[root_eruditorium_org]

It's interesting that you bring this up, because most programmers are in the mindset of "I'm going to be here awhile and grow in the company." You mention "doing your own thing" and they scoff at you. It's fear of risk taking, but i dont want to be beholden to someone who can end my income with a push of the button.

With that being said, you have any tips for a young dude learning Front End? I want to learn back end languages (node.js,python, etc) but I want my foot in the door asap. I'm wondering if freelancing will pay the bills and give me enough on a portfolio. I need to be among other developers so I can grow my skills, instead of watching videos and doing small exercises for 5-6 hours a day. I wish I could afford those bootcamps. I enjoy learning all this, but I'm trying to think of personal projects to do because I still feel the "imposter syndrome". I have a grasp on HTML,CSS,and Bootstrap. I'm going to start Wordpress and Jquery in few days.



My endgame is to have my own business. Don't have to be the best coder for that.

Right?

Learn React fam - it looks very good. Better than Angular.

But just be comfortable in the fact that there will always be turmoil in front-end - they call it 'front-end framework hell'. You will probably have to learn or at least be aware of a "new' JS framework pretty frequently because everyone and their mama wants to be github famous and release their own JS framework.

i don't think i could ever be a full time front-end guy because i believe there's more to life than reading up on whatever new trendy front-end framework there is everyday after i come home after work. eff that.

web developers need to get their shyt together.

React is good though. Out of the mountain of front-end frameworks I'd place my bet on that one.

 

[FSP]

Learn React fam - it looks very good. Better than Angular.

But just be comfortable in the fact that there will always be turmoil in front-end - they call it 'front-end framework hell'. You will probably have to learn or at least be aware of a "new' JS framework pretty frequently because everyone and their mama wants to be github famous and release their own JS framework.

i don't think i could ever be a full time front-end guy because i believe there's more to life than reading up on whatever new trendy front-end framework there is everyday after i come home after work. eff that.

web developers need to get their shyt together.

React is good though. Out of the mountain of front-end frameworks I'd place my bet on that one.

Ugh..I tried to hang with Angular because I'm a google fanboy but damn...that shyt is unnecesarily confusing past doing basic stuff.And now they're trying to do that Angular 2 push and shyt is even more confusing. Switched to React and I'm like damn shyt is amazing.

Front end > back end by a mile though.

 

[Giselle]

I regret going mechanical engineering everyday b

It shouldn't be that difficult to switch over, right?

 

[L&HH]

Nah, Austin

He got let go after a year though. He seemed pissed about it. That was the last time I talked to him

I know someone that got let go from Amazon after a year or so. Yeah they don't play any games.

Let's stop some of the foolishness.

Yes people live in the bay, SF even making 60-70k and do fine. i don't know where someone got $5-7k for s one bedroom

These startup and tech jobs aren't all fun and games, yes there is a laidback atmosphere but some dude was posting shyt like people are putting in 40 and chilling...no, most coders are putting in way more hours which is the reason these tech companies have so many perks.

I'm not privy to all facets of dev and the whole cert gang, but y'all who don't have 4 year degrees and/or think you'll do a bootcamp with some AA degree and think you'll get a job at the types of companies listed in OP are WAY off base. Now how that translates elsewhere or into other roles outside SV, I can't speak on...but getting on at Google Twitter Facebook or the sexiest startups/unicorns...you need the name brand college killer skills and ability to sell yourself on "fit".

I don't think anyone was asserting you'd get a gig with any of the top tech companies going the bootcamp route. That'd be ridiculous to think.

 

[FSP]

It shouldn't be that difficult to switch over, right?

Some ppl don't have the attitude for it. It's not harder than engineering tho

 

[Sean312]

Let me guess, no nikkas

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Google, Facebook and the rest of them don't even care about academic pedigree - you just need to be good and play the interview game well at some level. Because I hear a lot of Google/Facebook engineers complaining about ppl who've basically just memorized the questions.

Yea, they do. There's a reason they spend their recruiting efforts at certain schools. That's not to say you won't get in from other programs or if you have impressive experience elsewhere. But that yr 1-5 employee is more than likely to have one of ~30 names on their resume under "school"

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yea, they do. There's a reason they spend their recruiting efforts at certain schools. That's not to say you won't get in from other programs or if you have impressive experience elsewhere. But that yr 1-5 employee is more than likely to have one of ~30 names on their resume under "school"

Yeah. Lol they literally have a pipeline from Stanford to Google. I will say for non developer roles they look for cultural fit more so than your major but you still better had come from a top school.

 

[Vinny Lupton]

The money looks sexy but I'd be bored as hell. I'd rather ffgure out how to be the coders' boss

 

[Vinny Lupton]

Loool naw man that's exactly what they want you to think so they can keep you there.
You know many of these dudes leave these high paid jobs at the big money tech startups and go on to start their own lol

Everybody knows its better have ownership in a company than just to work for one.

This..if someone can pay you and 14 other people 120k, how much do you think he is making?