This is the glorious "genius" Rick Rubin yall been talking about?

[Uitomy]

Came here to say Rick is a Druid! That’s all

 

[IIVI]

Mentioning them in a conversation on a message board is not curation or codification. Thats the part y'all are missing. You said yourself you have an issue with those names rarely being mentioned. Bringing them up in conversation is fine but it hardly qualifies as "doing the work" when compared with the thing you're complaining about

The point is if you're waiting for white people to boost and catalogue these names you're gonna keep waiting. They're too busy boosting their own, and yes it's usually on the back of our works

Again codification matters and white people understand this intimately. That's why they spend so much time naming things and rewriting history

Don't know what you're expecting anybody to do on here then.

I can only bring them up in conversation and stream their music/go to their shows to support them.

Can't change people if they still don't want to give credit once you bring the names up.

 

[HipHopStan]

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"M3GAN 2" is coming back to haunt theaters in 2025.

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M3GAN 2.0. See you in 2025.

 

[Budda]

What he means is "I have the ability to explain to white men,why this black music will appeal to white youth. So that they will put money behind it and make it so"


Nothing more and nothing less really. Truthfully Ive spotted more talent before they blew up than Rick Rubin. If only I was in the right circles and knew white people music back in the day. All you gotta say is shyt like "I'm telling you Mark, T.I and this trap music thing? It reminds me of retro Sound Garden ,fortified with the rawness of black pain and an urban twist"


Mark-"omg,I can totally see it! Heres 2 million dollars."



In other words hes a bum and a grifter,and not one of the true geniuses of the culture.

Basically.

 

[Budda]

Call the guy that co-created one of, if not THE most storied labels in Hip Hop and put on LL, the Beasties, and PUBLIC ENEMY (!) a bum and grifter brehs

Alchemist>>>>>>>>>> Rick Rubin.

 

[TM101]

Diddy going from shiny suit rap to last train to Paris techno is more versatility then Rubin can imagine

 

[southpawstyle]

I’m looking at his credits right now. Most of it is shytty rock not even hip hop. I know this is a hip hop forum so that’s the center of the conversation, but I don’t think it’s fair to lump him in with hip hop producers.

Discog highlights:

Mars Volta - de-loused in the comatorium
Nine inch nails
Slayer
……
..

…..


Lowlights:
A bunch of shytty red hot chili peppers
Imagine dragons
Eminem
Late Limp Bizkit
A bunch of greatest hits albums (how does he credit for those?)
Poison (lol)

Side note - 2 credits, including executive, in 1999 for 2 separate Mr Hanky the Christmas Poo albums

 

[Digital Omen]

Alchemist>>>>>>>>>> Rick Rubin.

Al: Talented traditional Hip Hop beatmaker who's made all-time classics.
Rick: Revived not 1, but 2 left for dead careers (Aerosmith and RHCP), masterminded Hip Hop's crossover to cac America and hence more $$ (Walk This Way), and told Chuck D to spit the lyrics he wanted, because Def Jam would never interfere with an artist's creative vision (Unless your name is Lyor but that's another story)

 

[ignorethis]

It’s the truth though, knowing what sounds hard is just as important as knowing how to make hard shyt.

Even as a producer, if you pulling from the same influences as everybody else because you got basic taste, it don’t matter how technically proficient you are.

Y’all don’t understand that these producers and musicians will play 100 different chords progressions or loops and not know which one is a hit.

Rick value is he’s worked with a bunch of talented artist across multiple genres and has probably listened to more music in terms of both volume and variety than 99% of humans.

He brings in talented musicians that match the vibe the artist is trying to create and lets them work, then just gives his input on what he thinks is hard, or plays an obscure song the people in the room have never heard and asks the musicians to recreate a similar baseline or melody.

Most of these super producers stop actually composing music the second they get the ability to, from that point they just sign talented kids, let them work, maybe play around with arrangements and stuff, and tell them if it’s hard or not.

 

[karim]

it's the original. that's a remix

they buried it because it was so garbage. But Rick still got that cash for the commission. Now think about that. They could have called up Easy Moe Bee, Pete, etc etc who were still active but he got the first look. that's the danger of his myth and the fact that he gets those accolades then takes opportunities he can't live up to anymore.

listen to Premo say REMIX (premo keeps the story short and respectful)

He got the first look because it was a celebration of the air force one, which dropped in the 80's so they wanted a 80's producer. Pete Rock and Easy Moe Bee are 90's producers

 

[GreenGhxst]

I don't have to be a boxer to knock half the coli out

See what I did there

 

[Firefly]

They say he started Def Jam from his dorm room but never tell you who in his family provided the $ for him to be there and the start up money for his label and put him in the position to be privileged telling us he didn't need any particular "talent" to move the way he moves now

 

[O.T.I.S.]

TF was this supposed to prove again?

Some people just have an “ear”. Especially if they can mimic shyt without reading music

Kanye west for example


Not knowing technology isn’t that big of a stretch. Most actual musicians don’t know that shyt either

 

[O.T.I.S.]

And who has been calling him a genius?

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Corey Taylor from Slipknot said the Creh would just come in the studio, listen to a couple songs and say “That’s good” and walk out. He got a commission off of that shyt and a piece of every album sold too.