THIS Is Why Jay Is The GOAT

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From another thread. Don't care if you don't read, but it's my objective, unbiased opinion. And has less to do with lyrics and albums than moves and life in America.


First Jimmy begging Tyrese for a job opportunity on ig, then Dame begging on ig, Cam w/the :flabbynsick: video green screen w/Nicki (who wouldn't even shoot the video WITH him, & mailed in a verse)...


shyt is unprecedented levels of corn. :camby:




All stan shyt aside, snake tactics, etc...How can you NOT respect Hov? Donald Trump, Bill Gates, (i.e. the white crackers most respect for their wealth & decision making) ain't get to where they are by NOT valuing money over most other things (except family and progress - ESSENTIAL relationships). Nah, they had to cut ties with other crackers they felt weren't a key part of the plan, or who weren't producing on a large scale to grow & expand their respective brands & pockets.




After all, America IS capitalism. Right down to the artists YOU do like and PAY FOR, whatever label that's paid from your purchase, THEY are CAPITALIZING (in a literal sense) on the fact that you listen to & support YOUR favorite artist. In turn, such artist gains capital, and is able to go back to the labels, merchandisers, companies with more leverage to negotiate more deals for MORE money. OR feed and support their family to a better degree. It's still capitalism/capitalizing. You pay YOUR money for the goods & services of others, and see no residual income in return from your purchase.




I say that to say, you can't escape capitalism at all. Not in this country. And for all the talk about how Jay's a shrewd, fukked up businessman...If Capitalism runs America, why is Jay wrong for knowing the ins & outs, and maneuvering accordingly? This world will chew you up and spit you out. This GAME will chew you up and spit you out. The racial and class barriers of this country and economy will chew you up and spit you out. Why front on a man who essentially did everything right? He's surpassed the people who gave HIM a shot. Should the student not aspire to become greater than the teacher? It's almost Godly that the man has made it to the level he's at. Regardless of who helped him, who's better, etc...Look how PATHETIC cats like Jim, Dame & Cam'ron are making themselves look. Ruining their "legacies" trying to cash out & get ahead. When they already have been close to the pinnacle of Hip-Hop, and rubbed shoulders with the greats, in and outside of our culture. Now being outshined by the 15 seconds of fame artists (the Young Thugs, Bobby Shmurdas, etc.) who will probably never get to their level or see the money Dame & Co. once did. It's the ultimate troll & ether. Knowing that someone who will never have what you HAD... STILL shines harder than you while you beg. And all you have are debts, stories and pictures.



:wow:




Isn't it funny, that for all the bread, chains, cars, hoes, & property Cam, Jimmy, Dame & Jay had in the early 2000's...These other nikkas didn't save nor invest well. It shows in their music, the way they talk, and the type of moves they've made. I like all of these guys and at one point wanted them ALL to win. But not everyone deserves to. Be mad at Cam for fukking himself over during the 50 beef, and not putting out top notch music. Be mad at Jimmy for being a corn and thinking he had more star power than he does, once "We Fly High" dropped. Be mad at Dame for being too arrogant and selfish to make moves to put himself in the best possible position. nikkas is doing Love & Hip-Hop, reality shows, begging ass interviews and buffooning out here. Jay can do as he pleases. Not because he's MY GOAT or no bullshyt like that...But simply because he made the moves to put himself in a position to do so. Cam & Jimmy may have been street nikkas too, but at the height of the Dipset era, there was way more clowning & shucking & jiving coming from that camp than anywhere else, including Jay.





Now while Jay's set for the rest of his natural life, without having to ask for shyt...(other than help healing his wounds from Ether that are everlasting) :ahh: Cam & Jimmy out here looking like fukk boys, and all their fans have left is a sense of nostalgia, and "that feeling" they had 10 years ago, when 5x purple tees and American flag bandannas with extra spray starch was in style, to tell their grandchildren about someday...




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my nikka you is stannin and :cape:

your arguement is :shaq2: and you forgot to mention jays philanthropism

* Read thread title

*Came in here not expecting to hear any music

*Wasn't disappointed

exactly what i said when he first posted this essay, my nikka you do realize we listen to music over here right?

jay-zs music is weak as fukk and aint no 7 paragraph report gonna change that
 

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my nikka you is stannin and :cape:

your arguement is :shaq2: and you forgot to mention jays philanthropism

thers I something wrong with this comparison homey.

also hov's music aint up to par, its trash. if his music was dope then i might agree.

blueprint 3 is trash and is on par with nacirema dream.

nikkaz love givin jay-z a pass cuz he the only one. nope sorry not me.

nikka I give a fukk about your taste in music or opinion. A LOT of Jay music is trash, fukk you telling me for? I ain't here to argue with you, nor did I make ANY argument about the quality of ANYONE MENTIONED music or discography. :dahell:

You seemed like an intelligent dude, but for you to not understand what I was getting at, without putting your personal bias to the side, is :mindblown: there is nothing at all wrong with my comparison. Good day.

To someone who JUST raps or JUST sees things on a musical level, ok. Whatever. I clearly stated that my opinion wasnt rooted in my musical taste. So any nikka coming in here not addressing shyt from a business or CULTURE advancing/regressing perspective will be ignored.


I don't give a fukk WHO you nikkas think can or can't rap. You're clearly illiterate and deserve no more replies. I ain't here to argue with you nikkas. Que the personal shots, you just proving my point even more. nikkas get emotional when they can't have logical debates with valid points, facts and figures.

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@SpacelySprockets a case can be made for that. Seeing how these nikkas like to play that :cape: stan, back n forth insult immature bullshyt on this site, I'm just addressing things from a different perspective other than just MUSIC.
 

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@SpacelySprockets a case can be made for that. Seeing how these nikkas like to play that :cape: stan, back n forth insult immature bullshyt on this site, I'm just addressing things from a different perspective other than just MUSIC.
Your point is that Jay-Z is the greatest because most of his former business partners are struggling?

:wtf:

And you think this is a mature perspective to come from?

And did you really just ask some dumb sh1t like "How can you not respect Donald Trump?" And lazily throw him in the same category as Bill Gates just because they're both rich?



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To someone who JUST raps or JUST sees things on a musical level, ok. Whatever.

you mentioned bill gates and jay-z in the same sentence. i dont think we see things eye to eye.

you said it wasnt about music but you mentioned various songs in your long winded rant

you mentioned dipset songs, nas shyt etc so please spare me the bullshyt cuz you aint built for a debate. the reason you dont wanna debate is because you will lose.

this sounds like "HEY IMA TELL YALL WHAT IT IS" instead of actually building with nikkaz.

did you say aside from the shark moves? so we supposed to pay attention to everything jay does but not the shark moves?

i was uptown the other day wit a nikka from diamonds in da ruff and my mans introduced me to jake the other day so please my nikka you aint talkin to someone who hasnt heard it first hand
 

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he's a business, man. not a businessman

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