This is why sampling is so important

[DJ Mart-Kos]

Back in the day sampling was harder i think. You had to learn the MPC or SP-1200 and those machines are just as hard to learn as any other instrument.
These days you've got producers who are just as soulful witouth samples as guys with samples. Guys like Neptunes already brought a lot of musicality in Hip-Hop back in the day i think.

I personally think sampling producers have better melodies than most Trap producers actually cause most Trap producers just really aren't musical.
If you sample, you already have that musicality in your beat just because of the sample. That's why sample beats have more human feeling in it i think.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

There are better examples of sample flips...This sounds like the typical cookie cutter Premo beat...

Plus, a smart person could argue that Hip Hop sampling is like poaching...You are killing an elephant just to use the tusks, but don't make use of the rest of the body...

What a dumb thing to say

 

[Dushane Hill]

 

[JuvenileHell]

Compose and sample this neg

Your trash talking after the neg game is on point

 

[Knicksman20]

Very true thread. This is probably my favorite Premo sample/beat. The sampling & scratching are crazy



Original & you can hear the same within the first 10 secs

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

What a dumb thing to say

I personally think he has a point though.
A lot of times those beautiful soul songs that get sampled are actually better than the beats they're used in.
Not always but half the times they are.

A lot of Hip-Hop beats are just fast food.
And a beautiful Soul song is more like a Steak to me.

I like them both.

 

[Knicksman20]

Love the way Premo used this:

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

Love the way Premo used this:

Kinda different i think.
Very dope sample choice by Prem.

This proves his creativity.
I mean i would as a beatmaker never thought of sampling some fairy tale music like that and make it a Boom-Bap beat.

 

[SirBiatch]

Very true thread. This is probably my favorite Premo sample/beat. The sampling & scratching are crazy



Original & you can hear the same within the first 10 secs

Has Royce spit harder than this since?

This shyt was almost "Nas Is Like" feels. Dude came out the gate raw on some shyt

 

[KravenMorehead™]

I'm not really sure how to phrase this, but here goes...

Sampling also serves to put whatever song use a sample in a continuum I believe, since the sample refers to a song that was created earlier, so the song using a sample is a "continuation" of the previous one. But a "continuation" that is new. It's the best example, imo, of "pushing the culture forward" : you link the past to the present, building on the good stuff that has already been done. So really the only way is up : the quality of what you sample damn near forces you to make a good song imo. If the producer has the ability to recognize a good sample and use it well.

Sampling precisely also expands the genre, for the simple reason that producers have to look into different genres and expand their musical knowledge to find the samples. So obviously, all kinds of different influences are coming into HH, which can only make it better. From kung-fu flicks to classical music to triphop, samples expand the possibilities of HH, which is why I feel it became the most universal genre and a genre that can convey ANY kind of story/emotion.

And finally, as I said samples are a link to the past and listeners can either just enjoy them in the song, or go and dig them up to discover the original. This is really important, I discovered tons of great music basically thanks to Rza, Kanye, Premo, Dre, etc (I'm not American so was less familiar with the artists that they sampled) so those producers not only gave me great music, but gave me keys to discover ever MORE great music by looking up who they sampled. So they're passing on the culture to the youth. I read a lot on the importance (especially for minorities) to transmit culture to the younger generations in order for them to feel good about themselves, and transmitting music is a HUGE part of that. I'm from Africa so I know damn well the social, cultural and historical importance of music (that link to music was brought to the US by the slaves) that is FAR more than "just entertainment". Lest we forget that minorities often don't have their own historians and have to just accept whatever the majority says about them/their history. Sampling circumvents that, saying "listen : this is the great music we were ALREADY doing 20-30 years ago. It's not only the Beatles and the Bruce Springsteens out there, we got our own amazing artists." I'm not sure if I phrased this well but I feel it's an extremely important aspect in transmitting the culture and thus giving the youth some kind of "foundation", even if they are not aware of it.

MY. MUTHAfukkIN. nikka.

it's musically equivalent to kente cloth and/or heiroglyphs. First time i've heard someone else express this.

This is the argument against Afram culture not being african. The behavior is inherently african and extends itself through culture. Being african is genetic. Culture is genetic.

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[head shots101]

Love the way Premo used this:

Wouldn't even think about sampling this

 

[Knicksman20]

Has Royce has spit harder than this since?

This shyt was almost "Nas Is Like" feels. Dude came out the gate raw on some shyt

I don't think he has fam. I remember when I first heard this back in 99. I was in a car & it was on Hot97 during a Stretch Armstrong show. I went nuts like yo, who is this & where can I get his album.

 

[Knicksman20]

MY. MUTHAfukkIN. nikka.

it's musically equivalent to kente cloth and/or heiroglyphs. First time i've heard someone else express this.

This is the argument against Afram culture not being african. The behavior is inherently african and extends itself through culture. Being african is genetic. Culture is genetic.

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This Big Daddy Kane song talks about using sampling & it's from the 80's



***Edit*** And uses a sample from Albert King (a Black blues guitar player) who my Pops played the original for me years ago in the early 90's

 

[Mr.Logic]

What a dumb thing to say

Are you saying that the song OP posted is the greatest sample flip EVER...?

 

[Zyne]

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